GTAV Next-Gen Received A Major Downgrade With 1.08

There's evidence that the latest GTAV Next-Gen patch (1.08) stealthily downgraded the game's graphics in multiple ways.

[LavaLampGoo]

Hopefully its a big in the patch... very cheeky though if its true!

[PCGamingNoobs]

i've noticed a big improvement with frame rate to be honest, i imagine its for that reason especially online.

ill keep the smoother frame rate for gta rather than crisper visuals.

[Palitera]

100% agreed. I wish more devs had these balls.

[DarXyde]

See, visuals don't even have to be bad;it's only when developers aim for realism. Give it an artistic style and they likely wouldn't have these problems.

[OrangePowerz]

They should at least give people the choice.

[JasonChalker]

The framerate was just fine before the update

[Gamer1982]

I agree framerate more important as drops especially online can be the difference between life and death and looking at those shots there minor differences. Graphics still look amazing for the games and devs should realise we don't need flashy graphics we want amazing games that work and play well first and foremost. I mean look at GOTY 2 years ago was the walking dead that game certainly didn't win for graphics.

[endi123]

Just no, a downgrade that's absurd

[LordMaim]

Guess what. It's not a downgrade, it's a bug that will be patched.

https://support.rockstargam...

[MysticStrummer]

@Lord Maim - Too late. The idea of a downgrade has already taken hold.

[NuggetsOfGod]

Everyone is missing their 28fps lol

More gfx please.

[hay]

It's a "bug", it'll be fixed.

[PudgeyBurrito]

Might just be looking at the Xbone version.

[SilentNegotiator]

With all of the graphical options, they had better add an option to revert to the last update's version of handling the graphics. Deciding this far in that players should want it this way instead of how it was before is pretty silly, especially since there really weren't that many complaints as far as I could tell, and I know I didn't have any.

[elninels]

I was complaining about the frame rate online.

[Crazyglues]

-There is no Downgrade in graphics /What happened was one feature in display was turned off by default.. Motion Blur..

So if you go to Settings / Display / Motion Blur - and turn it up all the way, everything will be back to normal..

[Crazyglues]

@ NiteX

Very good point, let me see how I can best explain this... This is going to be hard to explain / but lets see if I can..

The motion blur feature is not just motion blur it's called that, but it actually does a lot more then you would think, why? because of the way it works.. -Think about when you add a drop shadow to an image in adobe photoshop- it makes it look more 3D because now the image has a shadow and seems like it's floating or popping off the screen.

Quick explanation of Motion Blur - the motion blur is when you see a car moving in the game it has a slight blur to it, so it looks more like real life motion. / Like when you hold you hand up to your face and move your hand side to side, in real life you see your hand with a slight blur - that's how your eyes work.

when you take that off it takes away the blur and you see the car moving but no blur, so it does not look like real life, it's just completely clear no blur. /So now put your hand in front of your face and move side to side but this time turn your head with your hand, so when your hand moves to the right look to your right, follow your hand... -Now you get no blur, but your hand is moving. -that's motion blur off.

That's basically how it works, so same thing is happening in the game, if you take motion blur off it is like taking away some of the effects in Post Processing - in GTA V they are tied together, were in a PC they would be separate and you could go crazy, on consoles a lot of the effects are tied together, for a number of reasons / but the main reason is to keep a fluid experience as there is no need to turn up these features or adjust them because they are already maxed out for as high as your console can do without hitting a load error.

Meaning on my PC I can max out Crysis and play at 1920 by 1080p and max out everything and get a very slow playing game, were on your console it does not allow you to play the game higher then the system can handle.

So the other features are not things you can touch because there would be no need to because consoles are all the same, where a PC might have higher memory or a better graphics card so maybe you can handle more effects / so you are allowed to adjust them.

***Ok long story short -- Best way to see this is go to your garage in GTA V, walk up and down the middle of the garage - Then turn Motion Blur all the way up - (Now notice how the paint on your cars look better how the cars feel slightly bigger, how the middle of the garage feels wider... it's because all of these effects on console are tied to the Motion Blur)***

So if you feel like your game is looking downgraded, just turn the Motion Blur all the way back up, /it got turn off by default in the last update/ and it will be back to normal..

Hopefully this helps explain it.. just try it out and you will see the difference.. / It's not easy to explain in a comment but hopefully I explained it in a way that people can understand it better.

[OhMyGandhi]

very cheeky indeed.
...and did anyone notice the flying cars in this pic?
http://www.worldsfactory.ne...

[Conzul]

Cheeky?

They downright fabricated the Anisotropic Filter comparison by zooming in on the 1.08 screenshot. LOL, but people will fall for it anyway.

[StrayaKNT]

If this game was exclusive world war 3 would have started and all hell would have broke loose but it's a multiplat so nobody cares and everyone is still enjoying it like they should.

[GameDev1]

Well neogaf cares a lot as they have started a GTA v on pc , console getting downgrade war over there

But its funny how true your statement is

[GMR_PR]

NeoGaf... that place could be worse than in here sometimes.

@AussieGamer1

You are so on point with your comment.

[vishmarx]

this so much. no one noticed or truly cares because heists are too much fun to look away from and analyze graphics.
ofc , for anyone cares about graphics more than gameplay is free to delete the patch

though i kinda noticed the af

[AliTheSnake1]

Or because half the time you are starring at a loading screen.

[Ginesis]

It's sad that you are completely correct @AussieGamer1

[hesido]

Yeah, everybody should enjoy the game, but it's ridiculous to have it downgraded, especially if people were enjoying it anyway (if they are 'still' enjoying, means they were enjoying it before and no reason to downgrade graphics)

[ccgr]

Hope it's worth it

[Imp0ssibl3]

That's very strange. I thought patches were suppose to improve stuff...

[yezz]

Well it kind of did.. The game had pretty major frame drops when driving few of the biggest roads but I haven't noticed a single one of them with these new patches.

And since I had no clue about these downgrades until this article came out, I'm more than pleased with the fix.

If those frame drops would still exist with these slight downgrades, then I would be mad.

[techrave]

Hoping it's worth it.

[Nicolee]

they should call it current-gen by now

[ThunderPulse]

Seriously PS5 and Xbone2000 are the next gen systems now.

[Khajiit86]

You mean Xbox One 2?

[Torque_CS_Lewith]

One + 2 = 3.. . Half life 3 confirmed?

[Khajiit86]

@Torque

What if........ Half Life 3 is real life? We have been playing Half Life 3 since BIRTH!!!!

[xtremexx]

@Khajiit86 Holy Shit.

[UltraNova]

SO if I was to take the red pill would that mean that I'd escape the matrix to see the 'real world' which is actually Half Life 3?

So the white-bearded guy from the Matrix was wrong, NEO (Reeves)was the second human Messiah not the 7th cause Half Life 3 just got confirmed!!!

MIND BLOWN! >>> SELF-FATALITY!!

[generic-user-name]

Anyone else not seeing a difference?

[d_g]

this photo show the difference

http://www.worldsfactory.ne...

http://www.worldsfactory.ne...

[generic-user-name]

One of those pics is zoomed in and intentionally looks like it was made to look bad. My ps4 version of the game DOES NOT look like that. This article is lies.

[BattleTorn]

The second shot is BS, it's fuzzy & zoomed in.

Anyone would notice that type of downgrade immediately

[GreetingsfromCanada]

It looks depth of field is off on one picture and on in the other one

[BattleTorn]

The video is important, somethings up

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[hkgamer]

why are the cars floating?

[LamerTamer]

It actually looks lower res and non native 1080p, like 720p or something. ICK!

I will just not download the patch since I don't play online, problem solved for me.

[WellyUK]

Hopefully it improves those loading times at least...

[Saijahn]

you can definitely see a difference at least in those screens. 1.08 screens, look blurry and severely lacking detail.

[Dudebro90]

I'm not seeing anything "major."

The frame rate has been improved quite a bit, much more stable.

The visuals look MAYBE a little downgraded, but worth it if it improves the frame rate.

[iliimaster]

kinda feels crappy if thats the case its more a ps3 game than a ps4 game it seems

[Kane22]

so rockstar downgrades their game and almost everyone is ok with this.........

[ThunderPulse]

Most people are too dumb to care.

[SilentNegotiator]

People that are indifferent about a supposed graphics downgrade in exchange for a better framerate = dumb?

Brilliant logic there.

[hesido]

A frame-rate analysis is required to claim how much improvement this provides. If it fixes somethings that happens 5% of the time but affects the game 100% of the time, it's a bad move, they should downgrade when the performance is needed dynamically. That beach scene for example works fluidly in 1.00, looks much more flatter in 1.08. It's a 0% performance increase for that part of the game.

[WellyUK]

Rockstar never seem to get talked about despite GTAV being broken online still yet no one seems to say anything... It still kicks large groups of players from sessions and has a massive loading time along with the session changing on MP. Every other game gets slated for this yet because it's Rockstar it's ignored.

They just seem to be so loved by everyone that when there is problems its not jumped on like every other dev.

Lucky i guess is the word.

[Kane22]

it seems like rockstar gets a pass for downgrading and then doesn't give a reason why.

[spacewarrior1]

why even port this game if they are just going to downgrade back to last gen graphics ? i have a feeling they also did this because they want people to buy it a third time for people who have both consoles and PC. dirty tactic.

[Niv]

Wonder which console got nerfed?

[ServerBOT]

Oh Science, Hope they fix it back up plus get the motion blur slider working in the next patch.

[Mikey Mike]

Exactly!!!

[Mikey Mike]

Ah the B$ train wagon continues for the primary reason for hits.... They added a blur effect that you can turn off in the settings....

[Alexious]

Dude, the downgrade is real, check the screenshots and video for yourself. It has nothing to do with a "blur effect" from the settings.

People are very angry around the Web.

[Haru]

The game looks last gen anyways

[Khajiit86]

You must not have played "last gen" in a while

[WellyUK]

I agree with you despite everyone disagreeing. Game is hardly amazing looking.

[ScamperCamper]

One way to avoid downgrades? PC fellas: http://www.grandtheftautofo... That said, I just had to get a new video card (isn't cheap) and even with that I don't know if I'm getting to MAX out eye candy on the PC version when and if it comes out. That said, PC versions have internal tweaks to suit your own PC. Consoles aren't so lucky. Everyone goes down with the ship as it were.

[wazgrel]

lol You do not talk about PC in these post. People are incredibly butthurt over this, will downvote you and report you for trolling.

Don't bother, mate.

[Grave]

April Fools yo.

[PCGamingNoobs]

you've done it marty!!

[N0TaB0T]

It's still a great looking game.

[Alexious]

Sure, but why downgrade now? Also, it's not like they improved the frame rate a lot.

[N0TaB0T]

Well... Why not wait for the PC version?

[juggulator]

It seemed to mainly remove displacement mapping in alot of terrain. Kind of a major downgrade since it's a feature that shows the graphical capabilities of the consoles. It needs to stop though. They need to make sure all is optimized so there's no need to reduce/remove graphical features in order to add additional content.

[Meltic]

Rockstar FU

[St0]

Website wont load for me

[dRanzer]

Same here

[JasonChalker]

I don't care too much about the graphics but the car damage being downgraded is a HUGE deal.

[Manubiggs]

Is this the single player or GTA Online only ...or both. There has always been a significant difference between GTA Online and the single player.

[TardcoreGamer]

Console "optimization" at it's finest.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Is the right trigger bug still there?

[D3athc3ll]

I bought it on ps3 and completed the game. Bought it on ps4 and completed the game. Getting it on pc and cant wait to complete the game again!!

Hope my 660GTX will run the game ok!!

Anyway downgrading graphics should be a no no! Ya telling me the ps4 cant run those graphics and a solid frame rate... Sadness awaits!!

Then again, gta vi will look a lot better and probably run the same, so no excuse to downgrade!! Not nice Rockstar, not nice at all! But if it is online only and not single player, ill accept the downgrade!. If it is both, I think i lost all hope in humanity and ima shoot me some rhinos in far cry 4!!

[Plagasx]

Only a few more weeks until PC version.

[alice2015]

to downgrad a game that was a upgraded game seems wrong

[Gwiz]

Hmm,first set of pics 1.0 is zoomed out(look at the the beach cabinet windows) and 2nd set 1.0 is zoomed in look at the background.lol
I find this a really weird comparison.

[Gwiz]

I'm really starting to hate these clickbait articles.

[hkgamer]

if we judge from those screenshots, then it does seem like a big downgrade. maybe rockstar should have given us an option, better framerate or better graphics.

[ziggurcat]

sorry, but devs just don't "downgrade" their game's visuals post-release.

[1nsomniac]

This has been happening in the last couple of patches not just this one. The wind simulation has been slowly reducing again since it was re-implemented. The draw distance was also lowered what I would call quite severely at one stage although a lot of people obviously noticed & complained because it was higherd again in the next patch.

The wind simulation was clearly not supposed to be in the retail game but they were caught out & after having to implement it as much as they can. obviously its not possible to get it to how it was initially showed off as "PS4 footage" they are now having to compensate for the added stress it's causing.

It's something I've been very aware of with all of GTA's next gen patches. It seems to be that they are stealthily lowering graphics to attempt to boost frame-rate & it's certainly done that in a lot of cases but I don't think it's right to do it this way which comes across as a little dishonest.

[WizzroSupreme]

That's fine as long as we can play it with an awesome frame-rate. And last I checked, 720p could still do wonders for The Last of Us.

[_LarZen_]

Rockstar are working on a fix.

[crazychris4124]

Multiplayer has gotten worse on the Xbox One. Almost every game I join is a lag fest, there is constant crashing to the dashboard, dropped connections, horrendous load times, and poor matchmaking.

There is no excuse on why we should be having these problems. Rockstar has some of the best talent in the world working for them, they have been making games for decades and yet 18 months after release multiplayer has taken 1 step forward, 7 steps back. They have sold over 45 million copies, close to 3 billion dollars has been made and yet they cant afford to buy better, more efficient servers and get better talent to improve stability. Are you kidding me?

Multiplayer needs to be fixed ASAP. Just not fun when you are halfway through a heist and the game crashes. Its nothing on my end so dont start with that crap. Have a 75/75 connection and iI have a wired connection to my $300 nighthawk x6. I play flawlessly on other games for PC and Xbox One so its clearly on Rockstar's end. Such a shame cuz when multiplayer works the game is just amazing.

[kingduqc]

Lel consoles

[dreamed]

@crazyglues....lsd gives the best motion blur imo!!!!

[Mrveryodd]

Still my favourite game .... Ever ....😍

[mkis007]

https://support.rockstargam...

Its not intended thankfully.i noticed it as i was playing, but thought i was going crazy, i guess i do notice these things.

[bOObies]

This is some straight BS right here. My only question is was this an accidental thing? Or were they just hoping we wouldn't notice.

[fireraptor0402]

Update just came out- reverted the downgrade. Looks like it was a bug after all...

[user6697483]

What's the problem right now? I've not played GTA5 online very much & refuse to download updates for it since 2 updates before heists were added screwed all of my saves up. Started a new game yesterday & have my new saves on the two 5tb hard drives I have for the Xbone. I may dl the updates only if a friend I've known most of my life who is suffering from Muscular Dystrophy gets a Xbone & GTA5.

[DJ]

Confirmed, it's a bug. Rockstar will probably send out a 1.09 patch soon.

[Orionsangel]

Great! Now my PS4 game looks like a PS3 game. I protest! I am not a merry gamer!

[iNFAMOUZ1]

you see, all you kids asking for heists, crying about it non stop, you got what you deserved, i knew it would happen, thats why i never cared for them

[XskullbangerX]

I noticed this in last gen as well. on 360 I could tell the detail draw distance was almost halved. Can't wait for my pc copy!

[TheOnlyMastrx]

Don't know if this is something to do with patch, but I was driving to Franklin's 4 car garage and there is a gas station like right across the street from it and it didn't even render any of the gas pumps until a few seconds sitting right next to the lot...just something that happened to me playing today.

[dex10awesome]

Can't wait for PC version. Also the Sony fanboys who were all over that Wii U fanboy, last time I checked you guys barely innovated. Though Wii U has lower power, that is to keep it's price down. However Nintendo innovated with the controller, most of you Sony fanboys seem to think it is clunky and too large. But Nintendo never seems to forget practicality, because for me it can control really nice.

Evil flower steadily bloom.

[dex10awesome]

I'll take one ticket for GTA V for PC.

[DoggyBiscuit]

Downgrade or not is still look good to me

[samchez77]

Hey, aren't we about due for the next PC Delay announcement???......