Nintendo Switch internal memory was upped at Capcom’s request

If Nintendo had its way, the Switch wouldn’t have had as much memory inside, and you might’ve had a very different gaming experience than the one you have today. Thanks to a push from Capcom and other developers, though, that’s not the case.

[darthv72]

sort of like when epic told MS they needed to have 512mb in the 360. though if Capcom wanted switch to have 4gb then does that mean they are working on a RE game for switch???

[PhoenixUp]

It's probable but unlikely considering they didn't even announce they'd be porting Resident Evil: Revelations to NS like they did with PS4 and XO recently.

[conanlifts]

As in the article Capcom have already reported they are working on getting the resident evil 7 engine working on switch. Of course this is just the game engine and doesn't mean they are porting the game.

http://nintendoeverything.c...

[_-EDMIX-_]

@sd- stop.

https://www.vg247.com/2017/...

You brought this up in another article and several users corrected you why did you purposely ignore the statements by the company? They stated they have no plans to bring Resident Evil to the switch and they even made do with that promise as Revelations is being ported to the Xbox one and PlayStation 4 and it's completely skipping the Switch.

[Concertoine]

I mean capcom tends to use one engine at all times. They used MT Framework last gen.

So they'd probably use RE engine for other in-house games like Monster Hunter.

[Name Last Name]

Its certainly for Monster Hunter.

[conanlifts]

@edmix.
I have never bought this up in another article.

Next, did you struggle to read what i said. I said they are porting the game engine. Plus i said "Of course this is just the game engine and doesn't mean they are porting the game."
You should try to read what someone writes .

@ concertoine, that is a possibility. My assumption with monster though was that they might port monster hunter xx across. But what you say is probably correct.

[_-EDMIX-_]

That's unlikely considering Capcom themselves actually stated they don't have plans to bring any of the Resident Evil games to the switch and they made True to that promise bytl not even bringing Revelations to the switch instead they're bringing it to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

I believe it's likely a deal for Monster Hunter.

[Fist4achin]

I have to agree about MH. Nintendo has a firm grasp on that IP. I think the last MH for a console other than a Nintendo was ps2.

I wish they would share...

[Teflon02]

Fist... Monster hunter became popular because of the psp. Only reason it looks like this now is because Capcom requested Sony update adhoc party of ps3 so it would work with the newest monster hunter at the time. Sony didn't end up doing it. Which makes sense, monster hunter was selling millions, why are they cheating out forcing people to use adhoc party instead of adding online... But basically to be spiteful Capcoms MH team brought them to 3ds going forward over Vita despite the fact Vita's second stick was what it needs the most lol

[_-EDMIX-_]

@te-I very much understand where Monster Hunter became popular from but at the end of the day my assessment is based on their financial situation their financial situation is telling me that they likely cannot afford to produce this game unless Nintendo funds which to me tells me it's statistically likely we will see a Monster Hunter on the switch before we'll see one on the PlayStation 4 or even the PlayStation Vita it's not ignoring that it existed on the PSP, it's just recognizing the company's financial situation.

I don't think Capcom did this to be spiteful, I think they just don't have the money.

If you're not going to bring up the company's financial situation I'm not entirely sure how you could hold this conversation a lot of their decisions have to do with where they are currently.

I mean you're basically making a statement and completely ignoring that they actually don't have the money for the thing you're talking about I'm sure it makes lots of logical Sense on the PSVita that doesn't mean they could afford it.

15 million vs 65 million, add in their current financial situation and then add in that Nintendo is more than happy to fund the project and you have a great reason why it exists on the 3DS

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

probably for Monster Hunter

[Perjoss]

"then does that mean they are working on a RE game for switch???"

Could be many things, I'm hoping it's a new Monster Hunter.

[desertpunk86]

everyone knows is going to be a monster hunter game running on the RE7 engine.

[CrimsonWing69]

Nintendo being Nintendo.

[AKR]

Actually, no.

They took the advice of a third-party instead of just sticking to doing their own thing like they did with the Wii and Wii U.

Yeesh, you folks will always look for a way to put a negative spin on any good news.

[WickedLester]

I think what he means is that were it not for Capcom's persuasion, Nintendo would've low-balled developers on memory. It's great that they listened to Capcom but I believe what he's getting at is that it shouldn't have come to that in the first place. Nintendo should've already had the foresight.

[CrimsonWing69]

Yea if you think this is good news I think there's something wrong with you. Nintendo shouldn't have even considered to do less internal memory in the first place. The fact that they did shows how out of touch they are. Thankfully a dev convinced them to even give the little bit that they already have which is still ludicrously low.

So, yea I don't find this to be good news it's more of a frightening reality check.

[WickedLester]

And to be fair, developers told Sony the exact same thing when Sony was talking to them about what they needed for current gen game development. I forgot the exact quote but Sony was considering putting 4GB of RAM into the PS4 and one certain developer told them in so many words "if you release that console with only 4GB or RAM, you're dead!" So I get it. Hardware manufacturers want to release these consoles as minimal as they can get away with to keep costs low. However that was more than FOUR years ago. I cannot believe that in 2015/16/17 Nintendo would've even considered releasing a console with 2 GB of RAM. Hell I still think 4GB isn't enough.

[Scatpants]

4 actually seems not too bad for the type of graphics the Switch will be pushing out.

[VersusDMC]

I don't think Nintendo took advice, with Capcom holding monster hunter hostage, they had to cave. Capcom made them make a second analog stick add-on for the original 3DS. I imagine Nintendo didn't want to do it... but then Capcom whispered "Monster Hunter 5..." In their ears. :)

[dumahim]

Wonder what it would have been had it not been upped to 4.

[WickedLester]

No 1080p in docked mode, I can promise you that. Even with 4GB we're already seeing games such as Zelda having to settle for 900p.

[Scatpants]

I'm not sure the 900p is entirely due to RAM constraints.

[chris235]

and they did listen? what went wrong here? was nintendo's arrogance-meter out of order or what? would have loved to see an even more underpowered gadget failing.

[demonicale]

Failing?, it's not failing you idiot.

[InTheZoneAC]

Yet...

It was obvious the launch was going to be strong. What's unclear is after 2017....

[EddieNX]

Its not underpowered either, for a tablet, its right up there where you'd want it to be.

[MrSugarholic]

For a home console, it's underpowered though.

[TheUndertaker85]

No, it is not. The Nintendo Switch shares specs with mobile devices of the past. A LG G3, Galaxy S6, iPhone 6, and others already matched specs. All of these devices are old and outdated in mobile terms.

[jznrpg]

For a tablet its on par, for a game machine a bit underpowered. And I like the Switch, just wish it had a little more power. Hopefully Sony does a Vita2 with good specs, but who knows. I feel like the Switch will do ok maybe even good, but lack of power does isolate it from a lot of 3rd party which hurts for wider acceptance.

[Segata]

They double the memory at Capcom's request.

[WickedLester]

Sad that it took Capcom's persuasion to convince Nintendo to up the Switch to a "whopping" 4GB of RAM. SMDH.

[_-EDMIX-_]

The fact that they did not know this yet we're trying to call this a Home console despite knowing PlayStation 4 and Xbox One had 8 gigs Ram is this quite alarming.

[Einhander1971]

Good news for us switch owners, hopefully capcom are on board in a big way now that request happened.

[Sm3000]

Some comments below are defending nintendo for listening to capcom. That's not the point. It just shows how out of touch and off the mark they are when it comes to doing hardware

[Perjoss]

Out of touch? The big fails for them have been virtual boy and WiiU, everything else has either sold really well or in the case of the GameCube it didn't sell well but it was quite a powerful machine.

Out of It's 3 most recent offerings only the WiiU can be considered a failure, the 3ds and Wii sold incredibly well. So far the Switch is doing good too.

[Segata]

PS4 almost had 4GB of ram but 3rd parties told them not to. Both listened to 3rd parties.

[_-EDMIX-_]

They were correct too but the difference is PlayStation 4 and Xbox One both released around the same time both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One we're also having more RAM than their previous by an absolute significant amount so going from 4 to 8 gigs makes sense.

But for Nintendo to have even questioned going below 8 gigs after two examples showing what the industry needs at the time is quite alarming because PlayStation 4 and Xbox One did not have some magical system to go by to know what the right gigs would have been.

The fact that they were going below 4 gigs is what's absolutely shocking.

So what they're trying to tell people is they went from one gig of ram in the Wii U to 2 gigs and thought that was significant? LMFAO!!!

[_-EDMIX-_]

I agree I think it's great that they're FINALLY listening to third-party but I actually believe it's quite scary that they even needed a company to tell them such a thing, even after the release of PlayStation 4 and Xbox One we're talking about over three years ago and they're trying to come in with something under 8 gigs? For god sakes it was going to be under 4 gigs? So what? Was it going to be two gigs? This company needs a lot of a damn help at this point I would feel comfortable if a third party company was telling them exactly what their systems need to be.

[ccgr]

Thank you Capcom!

[cyclindk]

Whole console is recycled parts, should have been 249.95 and not a dime more. Games should be 49.95 each. End of story. Good for dev influence in this instance. I believe this may have been similar to PS4 prior to its launch.

[deafdani]

I disagree. I think the $300 price tag is reasonable considering it's a new console so it hasn't had a chance to go down in price due to bulk manufacturing, it's just getting started, and R & D costs also factor in. For comparison's sakes, remember that the Xbox One and PS4 launched at $500 and $400 respectively...

Also, the modular nature of the Switch probably isn't cheap. 2 separate Joycon (which are capable of acting as mini-controllers on their own), the Grip to transform said Joycons into a traditional controller, the straps, the tablet and the dock, all of these things add up. It's easier and cheaper, relatively speaking, to make a console that's just a single part and one controller, whereas the Switch has a lot of separate parts.

$300 is neither cheap nor expensive in my opinion. It's priced just right for what the console actually includes.

As for the games... I'll judge the value of those on a game-by-game basis. Zelda Breath of the Wild is definitely worth the $60. Super Bomberman R, on the other hand, doesn't seem worth the $50 asking price to me... and 1-2-Switch should've been bundled with every Switch console for free. $50 for that is outrageous.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Absolutely not $300 is a ludicrous price tag to have for this system because it for significantly weaker than three year old PlayStation 4 and Xbox one, as well as having a lesser Library , as well as not even going to support those titles so you're talking about less games, less Hardware but more money?

No bud.

I would argue even 199 would have been a very aggressive price point for them to come in at.

[deafdani]

@Ed:

After our last exchange, all I'll say to you is: let's agree to disagree.

[cyclindk]

Some good points and opinions. Price of games, I do wish it could somehow be game-by-game as long as there were an upper ceiling to price! But yes, some games are worth much more than others.

My thoughts on the mobile aspect, THESE days, mobile is nothing new, difficult, or even necessarily expensive to implement. I'm not saying it didn't cost Nintendo to develop this device, but that they could have sold it even at a slight loss to bolster increased sales. Go for broke you know!

All-in-all I simply think they came out with a weaker offering than they could have, by a fair margin.

[flappo]

So basically if they could've got away with 2 gigs they would've ...

Nice 1 - smh

[R00bot]

And Sony was going for 4 gigs on the PS4 until 3rd parties convinced them otherwise. They were just trying to keep the price competitive, it's not as simple as many on here seem to think.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Except PlayStation 4 and Xbox One we're releasing with no other examples

the switch is released in three years after PlayStation 4 and Xbox One the examples are right in their face with what the minimum actually is.

Keep the price competitive? For god sakes this damn system is the exact price As Xbox one and PlayStation 4 if not it might actually be more expensive.

ALL WHILE BEING WEAKER!

[R00bot]

Yeah but it's a portable lol. You don't expect a phone to be more powerful than a PC do you?

[bluefox755]

Not enough IMO, my phone has 4gb of RAM.

[R00bot]

My phone has 6 gigs of RAM but I think 4 is just fine for something without the massive overheads of android whilst multitasking 10+ applications. The Switch just has to worry about one game at a time.

[Sirk7x]

How much would your phone cost if not under contract?

[R00bot]

My phone was $400 unlocked.

[superchiller]

Typical Nintendo, always trying to cut corners on their gaming hardware, to rake in the maximum profits. Unfortunately that means their hardware is unable to compete, as happened with the Wii U (and now the Switch, in terms of home consoles). It's a shame that Nintendo has this cheapo philosophy, unwilling to put the necessary resources into their hardware to keep it competitive, but they've been this way for over a decade.

[Segata]

PS4 almost had 4GB of Ram til third parties told them no. Same thing with Epic and Xbox 360. PS3 had half the ram of 360.

[FallenAngel1984]

PS3 shared the same 512MB of RAM with 360, it was just was split instead of pooled

[LastCenturyRob]

Yeah, only 4 gig of ram overall and 3 gig for games, but what is the bandwidth? I haven't looked that up. Also, for the most part this is a 720p handheld...just how much ram is needed to produce a quality game that only needs to target 720p with most likely lower res textures? For a handheld I still think the switch is really good! Played it and like it quite a bit!

[Segata]

We have known this for a while but for those who didn't now they can see that 3rd parties really had input on the hardware. Something I don't think Nintendo has done since Gamecube when Factor 5 gave input.

[ninsigma]

Always good when the console makers take developers into account. Worked wonders for PS4 and I can't imagine the Switch would have been a great experience with less than what it's got.

[feraldrgn]

It's a shame it's still pretty small though.

[R00bot]

Eh, it's actually pretty good for a mobile device.

[Gamist2dot0]

Wonder what was the target Nintendo wanted? 2GB? Obviously it would affect the price which Nintendo would have probably prefer to sell the Switch at $199-$249, imo.

[Pancit_Canton]

I'm surprised nobody told Nintendo to use Tegra X2, instead of Tegra X1.

[Goldby]

i'm surprised no one told Nintendo they should market the switch as a hand held first and home console... never

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

At the time of the Switch development Tegra X2 wasn't even out.
Plus it not Tegra X1 is a Custom Built one.

[Goldby]

reports have been released, its just a tegra x1 nothing special about it.

[Smokingunz]

I can't believe nintendo was going out like that with such meager ram, thank goodness they were smart enough to listen to capcome, in aLl actuality I think the switch should have eight just like the consoles.

[R00bot]

The PS4 almost had 4 gigs of RAM until 3rd parties convinced them otherwise. The 360 also almost had 256mb of RAM. This isn't a first for consoles as the manufacturers would rather optimise their games than make their system more expensive.

[Scatpants]

Thanks Capcom now release some games people actually want.

[hahaha]

Capcom didn't push hard enough.

[Technoir]

RE Mercenaries on switch, please!

[Bahamagamer]

My thoughts on this

God bless everyone.

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