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Gran Turismo Sport hands-on: Content vs quality

An extensive hands-on with Gran Turismo Sport at Polyphony Digital’s Tokyo headquarters.

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SlappingOysters2497d ago

Project Cars 2 landing a month before GT is bad timing - I wonder if the series still has fans.

freshslicepizza2497d ago

GT will sell welll based on its name.

LexHazard792496d ago

agree but also in gameplay and looks ..its no slouch in that department.

whitesoxfalife762496d ago

Godmars, why did you bring Forza into a topic that wasn't even about Forza in the article.

fr0sty2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Same reason Slapping brought PC2 in? lol

GT is the most popular racing franchise on earth (77 million GT games sold to date), launching for the most popular console on earth (these aren't opinions, but facts based on sales). It will do just fine regardless of what PC2 does. Look at how well PC sold (2 million) against GT5 (12 million) or GT6 (5 million), and it was multiplatform!

mandingo2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Then, they will see what a piece of crap it really is. 150 cars! What a joke. How did they only manage 150 cars when Forza has 700? Unexceptable.

butchertroll2496d ago

Did you played beta, moldy? Driving physics are great.

Btw. did you know that also GT3 had a similar cars numbers lije GTS and also similar number of tracks. And guess what, GT3 sold the most. Game was great and it was first GT for PS2. Maybe similar will be with GTS.

InTheLab2496d ago

@Mandingo
I'm sure you were outraged when Forza launched on the Xbox1 with similar car counts...

freshslicepizza2496d ago

@butchertroll
"Did you played beta, moldy? Driving physics are great."

No but I hjave played every GT up until GT5. The physics have always been good.

"Btw. did you know that also GT3 had a similar cars numbers lije GTS and also similar number of tracks. And guess what, GT3 sold the most. Game was great and it was first GT for PS2. Maybe similar will be with GTS."

It also had a deep campaign made and could be played offline. How many circuits did it have because GT Sport will only have 27.

Kleptic2496d ago

People can say w/e they want about the franchise. It definitely 'is' the most popular overall racing franchise in terms of sales, at least 'mostly-sim' wise. but to say we're in the middle of GT's glory days and keep a straight face...is off.

There is an issue with relevance when it comes to Gran Turismo, and everyone continues to ignore it. GT5 took too long and under delivered overall. There's no other way to put it. Since 2004, not one Gran Turismo game has made any from of lasting impact in the way the earlier titles did before. Saying that objectively; it's the last GT game i've purchased, owning everything before it, and there is a reason for that. PS1 and PS2 era? The franchise went unmatched. Forza's first outing on the original Xbox was surprisingly good, though...and then it was 2004...to 2010...with several Forza's in the middle for MS/Turn 10 to work out kinks (and PD only pushing GT: Prologue as some sort of 'hint' at what was coming...?) ...and all of a sudden Polyphony may have lost touch with their fanbase...And as a series fan from 1998...I promise, for me at least, they haven't yet got it back.

Either way, hope this one does well...but a ton of people sitting around like it's fall 2003 and pushing and shoving about how GT Sport is going to be a direct sequel to GT3 Aspec, and how this franchise can't be touched?...times have changed...significantly..

Liqu1d2496d ago

@whitesoxfalife Funny how you said nothing when TeamLitt brought Forza up in one of the first comments on this article but you have a problem with Godmars doing it. Wouldn't have anything to do with TeamLitt being a fellow Xbox "fan" would it?

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LP-Eleven2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Bad for PC2. GT is a far, FAR bigger IP!

For those unaware of what this series sells, it's time to do some reseacrh:

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...

The lowest selling mainline GT title, GT6, sold 5 million units as of Mar 31 (on the heels of the PS4's launch, so it made sense). That still puts it head-and-shoulders above the original Project CARS.

Imalwaysright2496d ago

It will be the best selling exclusive of the year and one of the biggest games of the year.

Death2496d ago

With 150 cars and 27 circuits it's pretty light on content for a console that has been on shelves for 4 years. Quality over quantity is only true if GT Sport has higher quality over competing racers. Surely it will sell better than Project Cars and Forza 7, but sales won't be based on content. GT always had a huge following and it will be interesting to see how Sport sells compared to previous outings.

LP-Eleven2496d ago

@ Death: Totally irrelevant to my post.

jerethdagryphon2496d ago

Gt5 sold more then the entire forza franchise

Death2496d ago

@LP,

Which part of my comment is not relevant to yours? We are both discussing GT sales and what we expect to happen. GT6 is the last in the series to release and was also the lowest selling at 5 million. The series peaked at 15 million with GT3 and dropped to just under 12 million for GT4 and GT5. At 5 million GT6 sold extremely well, but is still a significant drop and shows a pretty strong decline in sales trends. I'm not sure what to expect out of GT Sport with 150 cars and 27 circuits when GT6 sold less than half of GT5 with over 1200 cars and 100 tracks. GT is a huge IP with with close to 65 million games sold, but sales have been declining and if the trend isn't broken with GT Sport, the game will be lucky to hit 2 million. I'm not sure if reducingcars and tracks and removing most of the single player game is the answer.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2496d ago

@Death

Gran Turismo has a following, mainly in Europe and Japan. It will sell 2 million within the first month easily. I guess you missed the positive information coming from people who have been participating in the beta? Of course you did.

LP-Eleven2496d ago

@ Death: IGiveHugs said it best. Just stop.

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LP-Eleven2496d ago

@shbloom: No. There was only a "sharp decline" between GT5 and GT6, and it was due to the PS4's launch (as I noted).

Death2496d ago

@LP,

With 80 million PS3's sold, you can't blame PS4's release a few weeks earlier for GT6's decline in sales. Sony could have moved the launch earlier if that was the case.

@Hugs,

Positive info is great, but that doesn't necessarily translate into increased sales. GT Sport might sell very well, but the trend has been decreasing and the fact the game is more like a Prologue in scale without traditional single player doesn't sound like a good plan.

IRetrouk2496d ago

Death i didnt buy gt6 because i had already bought a ps4, so yeah the ps4 release deff had an effect, the game still sold close to 6 mill, which is better than any forza, project cars or ac has ever achieved, and all this talk about no single player content is silly, it hasnt been confirmed or denied in any way lol, also you honestly thing gt is only gonna sell 2 mill? Because of content you dont actually know is there or not?? But you forget everything the game is doing, exclusive concepts, real online cups and tournaments with real prizes and stuff being awarded on stage with real fia drivers, then you have the chance to earn a real life race licence, and thats not even going into the actual point of the game, to race cars, the physics and handling alone sets it apart from everything else out there, funny how single player is important now isnt it??

Mulando2496d ago

Also don't forget, GT6 was a recylced GT5. This was the only way polyphony could launch the game so "fast" after GT5. The GT5 development cycle was just to much. I don't want to know how high the costs were.

C-H-E-F2496d ago

PS4 is the reason why I didn't get GT6, my PS3 died and I didn't feel the need to buy another one to play GT6 so instead I picked up that need for speed rivals and have been itching for a GT game for 4 years now lOl.

IRetrouk2495d ago

Exactly what happened to me chef, my ps3 laser went and i decided to get a ps4 instead, i regret not buying it as by all accounts it was a more polished gt5, but at the time the ps4 held more interest to me than just one game, tbh i thought they were gonna do a ps4 version like the last of us or gta 5, never happened though, so yeah gt sport...bring it lol

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Crazyglues2496d ago

As someone who has been in GT Sport Beta, I can not wait for that game, it's amazing, but Project Cars 2 was a game I was not planing on getting, but since I'm a super racing game fan, I bought that too especial since it offers a different type of game when compared to GT Sport....

For one, the campaign I kinda liked in PC1 is was a little fun, Love the fact that there is so much customization that you can go into the game and get the feel how you like it if you are so tech involved, or find a nice YouTube video of someone who has already done this.. Which is what I did and it made me love the game..

-But if your money strapped, nothing should be before GT Sport, it's the best ever... if the beta is anything to go off of, it's the best it's ever been for a GT game, graphics awesome, Feel Awesome, Does what all GT games do but at that next level you expect and want for the new game.. Loved it.

yeahokwhatever2496d ago

Which series are you talking about? GT or PC? Because PC is going to get crushed.

C-H-E-F2496d ago

Nope, I'm passing on PC2, because it doesn't do much for me in terms of PC1 to PC2, they did such a great job on PC1, I don't see PC2 as a day 1, however GT will be day one, first game I preordered since MW2.

rainslacker2496d ago

I don't think it would really matter. GT has mainstream recognition and appeal, whereas PC is more geared towards the hardcore racing fan, with more limited visibility.

I doubt it'll help sales among the hardcore though.

TheTony3162496d ago

Pcars isn't a threat to GT. GT is one of Sonys biggest franchises and sells extremely well in Europe and Japan.

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Team_Litt2497d ago

Wonder if it will get the Forza Motorsport 5 treatment for launching with less cars and tracks than the previous iteration.

Doabarrelroll2496d ago

Wonder if you stop being a baby and ignore fanboys and just let PS gamers enjoy their game

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Doabarrelroll2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

@texag
Wahhh I called people the I word someone crucify me. Most of my comments are at trolls not normal people.

Theres nothing wrong with calling an idiot and idiot and the people I was referring too were idiots.

Now move along damn xbox fanboy apologists.

hamburgerhill2496d ago

"Wonder if you stop being a baby and ignore fanboys and just let PS gamers enjoy their game"

Says the fanboy....lmao....gtfo!

Suave_Langosta2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

This is N4G! The home of fanboy cesspools, where if you say one thing about your platform of choice you get chased with torches and pitchforks.

But come on dude, I play all platforms, and your comment is super chingey. PS has the most hateful trolling community on this site, most likely because there are more PS players, but whatever. Just don't call the teapot black when youre a kettle.

P.S. all platform fanboys on this site are annoying, I'm just saying don't act like PS isn't guilty.

PFFT2496d ago

As should you ignorant Sony fanboys let Xbox gamers enjoy theirs.

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Rude-ro2496d ago

Do you mean the false advertisement of its looks or content?
I think more people were picking on forza 5 for the graphical differences from what was shown to be the product.

Bruh2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Not really, plenty of people, including reviewers, shat on it because it lacked cars, lacked tracks and content in general. FM5's graphics were widely noted as a good leap from FM4, however it felt like a pro-logue to FM6 vs a full fledged game.

andrewsquall2496d ago

Don't forget it would need to have only 11 tracks like the first Gran Turismo to hit that all time Forza 5 low................... that, like a Zelda game, still got 9/10s across the board regardless how awful, contentless and downgraded it was.

Death2496d ago

Forza 5 shipped with 200 cars and 17 circuits and was a launch game in 2013. GT Sport is shipping with less cars, but more circuits at 150 and 27. I'm not sure that is the goal I would be shooting for in 2017.

IRetrouk2496d ago

What does it matter to you, you aint gonna be playing it lol

Mulando2496d ago

No, it won't. There are enough fanboys arround writing those articles. ;)
But I really don't get it why a racer must have that many cars. In the "good" old times you were happy if a racer had 30 cars. Nowadays it's just to much.

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CP_Company2496d ago

this is not real GT,this is just GT named game focus on online gaming.
fans waited almost all gen for proper GT game-GT 7 and got this gimmick.
ech,so we gonna wait til PS5 hits before we get proper GT game.
how some people says: they drop the ball...

Dragonscale2496d ago

GT Sport has a full career mode as well as psvr compatibility. The beta was great fun, nothing gimmicky about it and you obviously didn't read the article. If you think this is the same as gt prologue think again.

CP_Company2496d ago

no,it does not have proper career mode as titles before.this all game is about online gaming.
i could happy if this game had been like GTA 5,where you get single player as before and other part as online.but now? i like Sony a lot,but i am not blind fanboy,Forza 7 gonna crush this game because people still wants that kind of games,because there is a plenty GT Sports type of game in the market!

andrewsquall2496d ago

I agree. This is more like GT7 Prologue than a GT game. The "single player campaign" is just a bunch of crappy "missions", no cups or race championships and stages to go through. AVOIDING this like the plague.

mcstorm2496d ago

This game reminds me of GT on the psp. Was not the best at all. I lost my hype for gt last gen and don't feel it for this one to I also notice a few other people who are GT fans are more excited about project cars 2 than GT so sales will be an interesting one this time round for GT sport. Each to there own though some prefer get some prefer forza some prefer project cars and some prefer others. That said great time to be a racing fan and have plenty of choices.

Godmars2902496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

No footage...which would look like any other footage from a racing game...?

Edit:
Oh wait, there is footage.

And it's just like every other racing game...

sizeofyou2496d ago

Don't like racing games...then don't buy.
Millions will...

ILostMyMind2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Every racing game is like any other racing game.

Godmars2902496d ago

Death Race? Taxi? Demolition derby?

I can I at lest get a Spy Hunter?

Killa782496d ago

The beta was incredible, I do think the lack of content is an issue though.

Going to miss career mode :(

Dragonscale2496d ago

I played the beta too and there is a career mode. It was greyed out in the beta so unavailable, but is in the full game. The beta is purely a server test.

Killa782496d ago

From what they've shown, the career mode is essentially the license mode where it teaches you how to race.

There's an arcade mode which will is for general racing but no 'cup mode'.

However saying that, there's an emphasis on earning credits so there might be daily challenges?

Ju2496d ago

Maybe it'll help reading the article or watching the embedded video which explicitly goes through career mode...before spouting nonsense

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer15h ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning7713h ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv7213h ago(Edited 13h ago)

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning779h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

-Foxtrot15h ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

...

Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv7213h ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC11h ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno11h ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier8h ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

Sciurus_vulgaris13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier8h ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

Elda8h ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer1h ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

Elda22m ago(Edited 22m ago)

Don't worry about my comments.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein1d 16h ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff218321h ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear2121h ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

qalpha6h ago

I'm sure Keith will be happy to hear he's a millennial journalist.

Goodguy011d 1h ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing6923h ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing6920h ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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CDPR Confident In Transition To Unreal Engine 5 For New Witcher Game, Addresses Industry Layoffs

CD Projekt Red is confident in the transition from its in-house Red Engine to Unreal Engine 5 for the next Witcher game.

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cthulhucultist1d 3h ago

My main concern with UE5, is that some developers have resorted to very low resolutions in order to enable the advanced feature set of this engine and sustain the frame rate.

In open world games, especially those with excellent graphics, we cant realistically expect 60fps  from consoles (PS5 pro set aside as we do not know exactly how performant it will be) without huge compromises.

Thus the new Witcher game will probably require more powerful consoles to experience it the way the developers intended and in that sense, it reminds me of Cyberpunk situation.

It was released in current gen systems albeit in dire state (even PS4 Pro and Xbox One X suffered) requiring next generation consoles to achieve a desirable (and still not ideal) result.

DarXyde1d 3h ago

My thoughts exactly. This is definitely a PC engine first and foremost, given the compromises required on consoles. Tekken 8 is a **fighting game** on UE5 and, even without Nanite and Lumen, needs to be upscaled to 4K to run at a solid 60fps. The engine straight up dog walks current console hardware. I don't see this getting much better on a PS5 Pro either.

I don't see this game releasing this generation. If it wasn't Sony owned, I think Decima 2.0 would be an excellent engine for this game.

Aussiesummer1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

I am quietly confident that they are going to make one hell of a jaw dropping witcher considering what they achieved with cyberpunk, i reckon they will bring a new level of what can be expected from ue5 BUT i reckon it will be a ps6/rtx 5090 game.