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Nier Automata Has 'Fake' HDR On Xbox One That Makes The Game Look Worse

Nier Automata is available now on the Xbox One. It is a great looking game that runs on the Unreal Engine 4 but it is evident after the Xbox One version that this was never developed with HDR in mind.

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IamTylerDurden12160d ago

Perhaps Microsoft pudshed for the addition? Shame it makes the game worse.

fr0sty2160d ago

If they created all of their textures 8 bit, and the game was designed to output 8 bit, then it's a lot more than just flipping the HDR switch on in order to get more out of it. Just like upscaling 1080p to 4K doesn't give you 4K, upscaling content made for 8 bit to HDR isn't going to look much better, and it also comes with the cost of gamma levels getting messed up.

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TGGJustin2161d ago

Yep It's why I've been hearing so many players saying it looked really bad. The person on Resetera did good work on finding this. Xbox and Square should be ashamed of themselves for false advertising.

SarkyPlays2161d ago

This seems a developer issue not an Xbox issue. It’s a bit mistaken to boldly claim Xbox should be ashamed for this considering they didn’t make the game or implement HDR

Razzer2161d ago

Ashamed for the "false advertising", not the implementation. And yes, Xbox is indeed advertising the game with HDR.

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

SarkyPlays2160d ago

Does it have HDR? Yes. Is the HDR not optimised for some people’s TVs? Maybe. There is no false advertising here.

Razzer2160d ago (Edited 2160d ago )

No, it does not have HDR (according to the source). It is like buying an Xbox One only to find out that when you open the box there is an Xbox 360 inside. The output stream metadata going to the TV says it is HDR, but the actual stream is SDR.

Read:
"The game is entirely in SDR and is expanded from 8bit to 10bit and then adjusted to fit into the appropriate place within an HDR ouput and then is sending the signal to the TV that the content is HDR. Nothing is gained, in fact things that would have previously been darker now become lighter than then should be, resulting in a lower contrast image, washed out image.This is the HDR equivalent of upscaling and claiming the game is a higher resolution than it actually is. But then actually up-scaling it incorrectly and reducing the resolution a bit"

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Razzer2160d ago

Well, I do agree with you in that Xbox probably had little to no knowledge of this so it shouldn’t be put on them. However, now that this has been revealed Xbox has an obligation to remove the false advertising from their site.

Bruh2160d ago

@Razzer
No genius, its not false advertising because the game still outputs a 10 bit image it just uses a 8 bit source as the baseline for the HDR signal, which is more of a shitty implementation of HDR than a false one

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rainslacker2160d ago

I'm not sure what fake hdr is. But it sounds like an issue with the metadata not being coded properly to fit within the hdr10 standard, in which case it should be a simple fix, albeit one that should have been seen before release.

breakdancefight2160d ago

Destiny 2 on the PS4 HDR is borked as well, Xbox one the gamma curve is way off and there is no way to turn it off.

Like you said, not really fake HDR, just poor implementation and optimization.

letsa_go2160d ago

I agree, it is very ANTICONSUMER for microsoft to lie to their customers and expect people to buy a whole new console for HDR!

blackblades2161d ago

Wtf I heard of fake 4k but never fake hdr.

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LordBrando2160d ago

Yeah that’s called Faux’K’ and it is also known as a PlayStation 4 Professional Trademark.

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Yoko Taro Passes Respect; Says Stellar Blade Is "Much Better" Than Nier: Automata

Stellar Blade's creative director, Hyung Tae Kim, has also claimed that the game is deeply inspired by Nier: Automata.

shadowhaxor45d ago

I feel like Yoko is downgrading Automata because he has expressed multiple times he'd like to revisit the universe, but Squenix hasn't been keen about it. We know he loves 2B and would love to take her out for another spin, so maybe this is how he gets the company to think about it.

gold_drake45d ago

u do realise that Square made Nier a franchise after Automata right?

Taro is downplaying it cause hes not a snob like most of the directors that think their games are gods gifts to the human race.

he said the same thing when being interviewed during the development of Automata too, that he couldnt have done it without the devs.

hes just a humble guy rly.

shadowhaxor45d ago

I mean, Neir existed before Automata with both OG Niers and Drakenguard. I don't count NieR Replicant, since it's a remake of the OG games. Sure, we have Reincarnation, which is still stuck on mobile devices (quite a damned shame). I just remember Taro saying he'd love to revisit Automata if Square Enix lets him. I do recall there was supposed to be a sequel to Automata, but it wasn't confirmed and I'd imagine it was just for Reincarnation.

Enjoy Taro, he seems like a cool guy, who loves the ladies and is humble. But damn, don't put down one of your masterpieces.

Cacabunga45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I really liked Automata and cannot wait for Stellar Blade

isarai45d ago

I get he's giving them some credit, but i strongly disagree based on the demo. I honestly don't think any aspect of it feels good, it's not bad, it's just kinda ok but definitely a little jank. Also the souls like formula it is adopting does not help it imo. I was looking forward to this for years, now im just kinda let down honestly 🫤

fsfsxii42d ago

Its not a souls like, its a dmc-ish game with rpg elements. Any game with a third person camera and a sword is souls like to these buffoons

H945d ago

Man exputer can you stop putting words like that after someone's name, i read Yoko Taro Passes and just went blank

Snookies1245d ago

Same... Awful way to word that title's beginning.

exputers45d ago

Whoops. Sorry to startle you.

H944d ago

It's alright brother, maybe I am just slow

Hereandthere45d ago

Thats because Sony had a heavy hand in funding and developing this game.

purple10145d ago

They sent in XDEV one of their traveling support studios to Korea to lend a hand if I’m not mistaken, Sony pulled out the big guns to help this studio

jwillj2k445d ago

(From the demo) Stellar has better direction in terms of stage layout if you like that ninja gaiden type feel. Nier is more polished by far.

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Stellar Blade X NieR: Yoko Taro and Hyung-Tae Kim on How Their Blockbusters Inspire One Another

IGN: "We talk to Yoko Taro and Hyung-Tae Kim about the ways that Stellar Blade is inspired by NieR: Automata, comparisons between EVE and 2B, and much more."

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NieR: Automata Sequel Has Been Teased By Series Creator

A sequel to Square Enix and Platinum Games' action role-playing game, NieR: Automata, has been teased by series creator Yoko Taro.

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CrimsonWing6996d ago

Is Square’s ethics department gonna insert themselves into this one?

CrimsonWing6996d ago

They weren’t around “last time.”

isarai96d ago

Yoko Taro doesn't play that sh!t

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Dirty_Lemons96d ago

If it can be done right then amazing, yes please. Yoko Taro seems to change it up each time so I'm curious what a 'sequel' really means.

blackblades96d ago

Either way hope he learns and give her more outfits like Stella got.

vTuro2496d ago

On a sidenote assuming this is indeed Nier 3 then I kinda wonder if Yoko Taro will stick to his guns of creating new characters and stories each time, or if he'll continue with 2B & co due to their skyrocketing in popularity. I guess he'll probably do whatever Squeenix pays him to do lol, but I'm hoping for the former. 2B and her gang got a decent enough conclusion (especially for a Yoko game) and I feel like continuing their story would ruin it.

vTuro2496d ago

Actually, now that I think about it, a new Nier game would technically be Nier 4 since the gacha Reincarnation was declared as the sequel to Automata and is therefore Nier 3.

Dirty_Lemons96d ago

Oh man, that game was a slog. Graphics and music were excellent though, and it's nice directly strongly to Automata.

Red3f1ned95d ago (Edited 95d ago )

Tifa is a good sign. There's at least some hope, lads.
Just maybe they'll leave things alone.

Plus, like people are saying - Taro don't play that sh*t.