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AMD CEO describes key gaming partnerships with Sony, Microsoft

Jim Cramer discusses Advanced Micro Devices' meteoric rise with the executive that made it happen, Dr. Lisa Su.

masterfox2088d ago

We all know the Playstation sauce will be actually the hot one ;)

darthv722088d ago

MS has the most to gain next gen after their 'Vista' xbo. The 360 was like XP, successful and even the og xbox would be like 95/98. while the xbo is clearly the Vista of the bunch. That means they will come back strong with their xbox "7" (of sorts) to regain respect.

slate912088d ago

Cant wait. Next gen going to be sweet

CarlDechance2088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

Let's just hope they don't repeat that Windows 9 debacle again.

:)

badz1492088d ago

the only good thing about the X is, it's going to push Sony to mandate 4K60fps as the minimum for next gen. anything less would be an embarrassment for the PS5 since the X is already not too far from achieving that feat in many recent games.

S2Killinit2087d ago

Im sure MS will do everything they can but i think the way they have run their gaming business has left a foul taste in many gamers’ mouth with their focus on PR campaigns and lack of focus on games. Im sure MS will come out swinging as they always do at the beginning of each generation but they will again run out of breath halfway through the generation.

Godmars2902085d ago

Meh. Launching well before anything else was the key reason why the 360 is considered a success. And then, even with that "success" it should say something that in general many talked or brought up the general end of consoles.

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mysterym2088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

We all know that the playstation will be hot - and noisy lol!

S2Killinit2087d ago (Edited 2087d ago )

But its the xbox that will break on you because its so cool ...

Vizigoth042087d ago

Lol nice. On topic, I like interviews when a CEO or president of a company actually sits down and shares the meat and potatoes of where they're that, who their partners are and just be human for once. Not just a bunch of PR representatives or "Spokesperson" of the company. I feel we get factual news when it comes from the source. The people who work hands-on with the product.

OB1Biker2087d ago

I hope its the usual sauce ; the exclusives.
I like how she says they have a special sauce to... 'sell' their consoles.

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MusashiBlack2088d ago

AMD is the real winner here. No matter the sauce, they are getting paid.

badz1492088d ago

but according to nVidia, it's not really worth it because the return is not THAT high and AMD is scrapping the bottom of the barrel just to make money and break even with the console deals as they are getting stomped in the PC scene. I don't know how much of that is true or if that's just jelly talk. but they are very eager to push out their unused X1 chips to be used by the Switch. hmm...

Mr_cheese2088d ago

Somehow I doubt that having a deal with consoles that joinlty sell over 100m is not bringing in any returns worth sticking around for...

purple1012088d ago

https://www.techradar.com/u... there sauce is already hot. And getting hotter next gen as developers will be experienced with the tech in the above article.. It's been used in pc gfx cards for quite some time. Now sonys devs had a 3 year head start in utilising it to maximise the teraflops available.

Kribwalker2088d ago

And where are the big gains, the leveling that was supposed to happen based on that. Because we haven’t seen any real benefit of it as the OneX seems to dominate the comparisons between games

Srhalo2088d ago

Does it matter? PS4 is still selling 3 times as many consoles and around 5x as much software. These multi-platform games used in these examples still sell 2-3+ times as many units on Sony hardware.

CarlDechance2088d ago

Hmmm, guess you would have to play Sony first party to see the "real benefit". Cuz the difference in console games between Sony first party and everything else is pretty obvious.

sizeofyou2088d ago

So a newer and more expensive console outperforms an older, cheaper console?
Yet they both play the same multiplat games - and barring a very few console exclusives, there are a far greater number of other exclusives available on the older cheaper console. Along with an entertaining punt at VR.
I've got both X and Pro. The X is a great machine and I do tend to multiplat on it (especially single player).
But if I could only have one console, it would have to be the PS. It stands to reason that it does what the X does almost as well, but opens up two additional gaming streams. In my case, I'd 'only' lose Forza. Sensational racing games but not to outweigh the other platform exclusives.

mrmikew20182088d ago

Stop reaching bro, you’re making it seem like the X versions are vastly superior over the Pro versions, when it’s not.

No one cares about those trivial differences except the fanboys and DF.

neutralgamer19922088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

krib

real power of the console is always on display via exclusives

mrmikew2018

they got nothing else but the power argument and cross play and all that power is being used to play games via backwards compatibility

what some don't understand is sony has had success because of their exclusives every generation it's not rocket science. Make excellent AAA exclusives and gamers will buy your console. Gamers know the fact that sony consoles receive world wide support because xbox just doesn't have world wide appeal

Zeke682088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

@Krib
You seen anything like Horizon: Zero Dawn, God Of War, Detroit: Become Human or Spiderman on your precious Xbox ?! PS4 /Pro seems to dominate the comparisons when we talk real console graphics. Sony got great games that are fun to play AND they look gorgeous. What more can a PS-owner want ?!

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Zeke682088d ago

@ImGumbyDammit
Wait wait, are you comparing M$'s income to Playstations as usual ? M$ win over Sony in income, PS divison smashes Xbox divison as they are going minus for the 5th year in a row now. Why do you Xbots ALWAYS compare apples to oranges to make your false comments come out as the truth?!
While PS shareholders benefit from the success of PS and it's games, M$ shareholders are told to hang on because Xbox divison is building for the future. They get scammed just as the Xbox owners who still wait for all those big exclusives that M$ don't even seem to have started programming.
M$ = promises, promises and more promises
PS = delievers, delievers and so on...
I can't understand how any sane person can believe in M$ after all these years of lies ?! Cloud, more games, VR... the list just goes on and on. M$ don't seem to wanna support Xbox divison for much longer so what happens to all Xbot's if they sell it off ? Are you still going to praise M$ ??
But the console maker who really delievers are going to take all this crap from you Xboters, that's so sad tbh.
I don't know about you guys and girls, but I bought my console to play games and experience new adventures, not waiting for a multi-billion dollar company telling me lies year after year and blowing smoke in my eyes to cover the fact they don't want to spend money on their buyers, they just want to milk the crap out of them.
Stop defending M$ and they might shape up ! (probably not, but you, the Xboxers, can hope right.)

Vizigoth042087d ago (Edited 2087d ago )

That's because Sony has different priorities. First and Foremost, the best games to consumers developers can possibly make. 2nd, give developers the best tools you can give them for the best price for the customer. Microsoft has the priority of First and Foremost Xpensive console first. 2nd another Xpensive console hopefully just in time for us to release some games people actually care about. In automobile comparison Microsoft has built the Lamborghini of Consoles with maybe a quarter of a tank of gas to fuel it. Sony on the other hand has given consumers a Ford GT full of gas with a fleet of fuel trucks to meet them at the race track. I bet you anything Sony is making more money on Software than Microsoft is on Hardware. I'm not saying Microsoft isn't trying to fix their 1st party Support but they are realizing now that it needs to be a priority. At least that's how they talk anyway.

Silly gameAr2087d ago

I'm sorry Krib, but no one seems to care about that. Seems like people want games, and not "big gains".

Realms2087d ago

@ ImGumbyDammit

LOL. This is why it's so easy to shut down stupid arguments that MS fanboys make, are you seriously comparing MS's total earnings vs Sony's gaming Division. If MS is making all this money why don't they invest any of it on the gaming division? MS is more interested in putting in place services with which they can extract as much money form every single user than they are in making good games.

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XiNatsuDragnel2088d ago

PlayStation will always have sauce

Kribwalker2088d ago

but i bet after the OneX, MS will be the sauciest next gen

Srhalo2088d ago

All the x really proved was the power doesn't matter that much.

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IRetrouk2088d ago

Not going off all the secret sauce they had this gen though eh?, how can we possibly know whos gonna have the better hardware untill they tell us, and even then power means nothing without games.

Kribwalker2088d ago

@retrouk

I’m sorry, i must be mistaken playing the over 300 games i have on my console right now......

We can’t tell, but betting on it doesn’t mean we know, it means that i believe it will so i bet on it.

CarlDechance2088d ago

"We can’t tell, but betting on it doesn’t mean we know, it means that i believe it will so i bet on it. "

That made no damn sense.

xX-oldboy-Xx2088d ago

Kribwalker - I'll take that bet, even if the machines were exactly the same - Sonys 1st party would get the most out of it.

xX-oldboy-Xx2088d ago

CarlDechance - Krib would be a very poor punter, I wouldn't take any of his tips.

PowerOfTheCloud2088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

Srhalo

"All the x really proved was the power doesn't matter that much"

Yes if it did, ms wouldn't had to start a dirty campaign for userbase begging.

If it mattered, users would jump ship to xbox in vast numbers to experience games on "the beast(lol)". even if the differences to ps4 pro were significant, people would still chose ps4 over 1X, otherwise every gamer would have switched to PC a long time ago. But there a way more things, other than how powerful a device is.

SuperSonic912088d ago

Tell MS to make good AAA exclusives 1st

IRetrouk2088d ago

How does the number of games you have right now take away from what i said? Without games to take advantage of the power whats the point? How many games out of those 300 push your console? Not many i know that, you could literally load up your original one and get the same experiance, and the same goes for the ps4/pro, the only difference is sony actually produce games to take advantage of the system, ms, not so much, so unless ms actualy pull their finger out and produce some compelling games a power lead wont mean anything.

81BX2088d ago

@Srhalo
I disagree with you. The X was more than power. MS knows they arent going to come close to catching sony in sales. The X is simply a start point reaffirming to the xbox fans... YES we are focused on gaming. It plays games beautifully. You have to put the X in context to what MS is trying to achieve. If they would've left it at the S I don't think fans would feel any bit of confidence in them

KickSpinFilter2087d ago

Maybe but I feel if Sony adds PS4 BC at the launch of the PS5 (when it really matters), tweak PSNow to be an actual great service, dont do a dumb price, and have one of these huge games like TLOU2 come out at the launch of PS5 in 2020...it's over. Time will tell. Power is not doing it just look at the sales of XB1,X,PS4, Pro. Switch. PS4 and Switch sell the most week in week out. Sure lots "o" power is a nice extra but that's not why people are buying consoles. Clearly.

CarlDechance2087d ago

"The X was more than power."

No. It was just power. It would have meant more than power and would have been "reaffirming" to fans if they had brought along some top notch AAA first party games. But they didn't do that other than your annual Forza. Love Forza, but not nearly enough.

Tazzy2087d ago

Well they have the most powerful console now and I own an Xbox One X and I haven't seen a huge difference in the games on my 4k tv the only game that did look good enhanced was Red Dead Redemption. They can have the most powerful console again but when it comes down to it they won't have the sales of the next Playstation or the exclusives Microsoft is even going to struggle with Nintendo and their new console by Nvidia. PS4 won't be caught by Microsoft or Nintendo and with the first model Xbox One the S and X they're still way behind in sales and Switch is picking up steam over 20 million sold. I look at your comment about the next Xbox being the sauciest however Sony and Nintendo have lower specs on their consoles compared to the Xbox One X and with that it shows the most powerful console isn't doing to well.

chiefJohn1172087d ago (Edited 2087d ago )

Fun fact: Xbox ones most requested thing on official Xbox forum was more power followed by backward compatibility. Ppl asked Ms gave.

nowitzki20042087d ago

I just cant wait to see all the BS from MS next gen.. Its really great entertainment.

IRetrouk2087d ago

Any proof of that chief?? Cause i remember it being games, nobody was asking for more power, we wanted games, the only time power was mentioned was when ms announced the x, again nobody was asking for another console, we wanted the one that we bought to be supported with first party content.

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Vasto2088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

The Xbox One X was just a sample.

UCForce2088d ago

But it’s not a beast. From what I remembered, Digital Foundry said PS5 will be a full power console and it won’t do another mid upgrade like PS4 Pro.

slavish02088d ago

Wft bro tech always ages. If ps5 is 399 i wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a ps5pro 4 years after gtfo

UCForce2088d ago

@slavish Well, this was mentione back in 2017. Now there is a lot of rumors about PS5. But from what heard, PS5 is maybe using custom custom AMD aka Navi which is huge. I could be wrong, but I maybe think PS5 will be major step forward.

CarlDechance2087d ago

Did Digital Foundry say they had a source at Sony? Cuz I don't see how they could possibly know that for certain.

Segata2088d ago (Edited 2088d ago )

How power is meaningless without compelling exclusives, that's why less powerful consoles are kicking its ass in sales from Sony and Nintendo.

Tazzy2087d ago

The Xbox One S was a sample that was 4k and had a bluray player and then they develop the X with the sample I don't see a huge difference Spider-Man for PS4PRO looks better than anything I've seen on my Xbox One X.

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

Christopher18h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack18h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics1h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Fishy Fingers17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan3h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens523h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

-Foxtrot17h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows9016m ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

helicoptergirl17h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan17h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv721d 19h ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk1d 19h ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832d ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan2d ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga2d ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--2d ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC2d ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop2d ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto2d ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman2d ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj2d ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 13h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo2d ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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