Fortnite's Latest Update Forces Xbox One and PS4 Users to Play Together

Fortnite's latest update puts PlayStation 4 and Xbox One gamers head-to-head on the battle field.

[Jin_Sakai]

Options are ok but being forced is not. I knew stuff like this would end up happening.

“The expansion of its cross-play feature essentially means you will have no other option than to compete against players on a different console.”

“The feature allows you to opt-in, but if you were to opt-out, you would be restricted to Playground and the Creative Mode.“

[SuperSonic91]

That is not right.
In Rocket League I have the option to play with PC gamers or not.

[TK-66]

"Regardless you still shouldn’t be forced to play with who Epic chooses. That should always be your choice."

Is this a joke? You said the opposite in the Nintendo Switch article: https://n4g.com/news/224868...

"Cross-play is overhyped and only a select minority care about it. Sony should’ve never have allowed it."

So it should never have been allowed, and we should have a choice with who we play with when it comes to crossplay? Dude, make up your mind.

[King_Noctis]

I don’t think he can make up his mind because he is a big fan of a certain console.

[DrumBeat]

Also, wtf @ "That should always be your choice." Barring parties and friends you enter matchmaking with, you've never been able to choose who you play with. You get matched and that's it! You've never had a choice!

Personally, I'm indifferent to the whole thing, but why on Earth would this bother you?

[Kiwi66]

Well stick to single player games only then if you don't want to play with others, problem solved

[RauLeCreuset]

Personally, this aspect doesn't bother me too much, but I do get how this direction would legitimately bother others, and it's funny to see the 'pro consumer' and 'player choice' crowd ride that slippery slope down to arguing people shouldn't care about being forced to crossplay. It's like some forget, or want to forget, that these are gaming consoles. Consoles are a different beast compared to PC. Some prefer the relative parity in hardware consoles provide compared to PCs when it comes to competition. They aren't wrong for wanting the benefits of a console while playing their console, and Sony isn't wrong to want to protect the closed ecosystem that is the bread and butter of a successful console.

Xbox may see it in their business interests to move more toward being a platform than a console, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to move away from what is traditionally expected of console gaming. I haven't seen even an attempt to justify why the choice is being removed among the comments here. Just a bunch of attempts to argue that we were already sliding down the slippery slope anyway, so we may as well go with it. Some have that attitude but try to dismiss concerns that Xbox is using crossplay as a trojan horse to access their competitors' ecosystems.

[TengHu]

Forget options! This is what the community asked for and it's what it got. There was no clause that stated, "We want cross-play, but...". They thought they knew what they wanted. PlayStation was right about cross-play being anti-consumer.

[Doge]

So you force Switch into the mobile pool and force Xbox and PlayStation to play together? Yeah miss me with that shit lmao. People wanted it as an option, not this.

[--Onilink--]

whats the problem though?
It makes sense to remove the switch from the console pool as it only runs at 30fps, so they are always at a disadvantage.

But whats the big deal about playing with people from another console? They are still nothing but random strangers to you..

[BlackOni]

EX-ACT-LY

[BlackOni]

Also, I just noticed your user name, funny how that works out lol

[ILostMyMind]

I have a PS4 and don't want to play with XBO users. I can not be forced to do so.

[Abnor_Mal]

From jump I said that choice most likely wasn't going to be an option. Not everyone from opposing platforms are A-holes, but what happens when you DO come across a lobby every so often and you don't have a choice. I guess my best choice is to just not play. Funny how ordinarily people want choice, but now are stating reasons why you don't need choice.

[gangsta_red]

@Abnor_mal
"..but what happens when you DO come across a lobby every so often and you don't have a choice."

Then you have the choice to leave that lobby and find a new one. Somehow I don't think your problem has anything to do with crossplay, just people online in general.

[rainslacker]

Yeah, but what if the switch players dont mind the disadvantages because of all the other benefits that cross plat has to offer?

Epic removed their choice I some cases.

Just playing devil's advocate, because the whole cross at debate is becoming so funny with the hundred of anecdotal situations, and more specifically all the rules and restrictions, and changed that fortnite is bringing to the table

[--Onilink--]

@rainslacker

No one has removed the crossplay options from the Switch version. They can still party up and play with anyone regardless of the consoles they are in.

If they party with a PC or console player, then they are dragged into that respective matchmaking pool.

If they are playing alone or with other switch users, they play in their own respective pool

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

As long as they don't force console users to play against PC users, who cares?

[King_Noctis]

Fanboys do though. Its like they are living in a cave and do not welcome others to play with them.

[ocelot07]

What is going on I thought crossplay was this amazing thing and all about choice. Now Switch is removed and the choice if you actually want to crossplay is now also gone?

[gangsta_red]

Lmao, you guys are really reaching, stretching and trying your absolute hardest to turn crossplay into some kind of hell on Earth.

Switch still has crossplay with consoles.

And why wouldn't a console player want to play with the entire user base of Fortnite on all console platforms?

[thejigisup]

"Switch still has crossplay with consoles." just
not with fortnite, for now. I'd say it has limited crossplay.

In my experience I've encountered more toxic players on xbl than I have psn. I do prefer gaming on psn. I also think not being able to add xbl or psn members to group chat or friends list could be annoying.

[--Onilink--]

someone clearly didnt read what is being changed... either that or your reading comprehension is quite low.

They are pooling PS4 and X1 players together, how much more crossplay can it get?

And switch still has crossplay, nothing is stopping a Switch user to join with friends on any other system. It's when everyone is using a switch that they will now be in their own pool with mobile users, since the Switch version operates at 30fps

[ILostMyMind]

I think Sony will have something to say about it. Sony should block that CP immediately. I can not be forced to play with XBO users. I did not buy an XBO. This hurts the rights of users of the platform.

[gangsta_red]

* super galactic face palm

[XtaZ]

Lol :D

[Kribwalker]

HaHaHa. Seriously? My sarcasm detector was going off the charts, then i saw your other posts in here.....

You guys are so against this for some reason. Not having it can turn playstation players into 2nd class citizens (see minecraft as an example) so i don’t understand why it’s such a problem to be given more then less

[Kingthrash360]

Not having crossplay will now make anyone second class. Crossplay isnt a big deal, it's just easier to find a game for all now. It's not bad in any way, but not a game changer either.

[Kribwalker]

The Minecraft Better Together Update is on every platform but the PS4, which still gets updates but doesn’t get everything the other platforms get and typically updates come at a later time on the ps4.

That’s a second class experience in minecraft. There’s other games that are doing PC/Switch/Xbox crossplay and cross progression that the PS4 isn’t getting. There’s the possibility that that happens with more games

[King_Noctis]

Awww...does this news hurt your feeling that much? Its okay...those big bad Xbox baddies won’t hurt you.

[TK-66]

Notice how the narrative has moved? The initial argument was that it's not a big deal and everyone was overreacting about Sony blocking it. All of a sudden it's implemented and those same people are saying they need an option to turn it off. I thought it wasn't a big deal though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Seriously though, I've always been okay with the option for users to opt out of crossplay for whatever reason they may have, but anyone who said crossplay doesn't matter and its not a big deal has no right to be outraged over this decision on Epics part.

[ILostMyMind]

So, if there are 1000 people in PS4 lobby and 300 in XBO lobby, only the 300 on PS4 will find match?

[SpeedDemon]

No, the players are thrown into the same matchmaking pool, the players are chosen at random, the system doesn't take into consideration what console the players are using.

[DaDrunkenJester]

I think you have a fundamental flaw in what you think crossplay is.

[tombfan]

People wanted this, now they'll have to stick with this :)

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Oh no I'm forced to play with other gamers. What a terrible new world this is

[Fishy Fingers]

What's next? Before we know it we'll be able to WhatsApp people with a different phone. This is disgusting.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Well that's actually funny considering how many iPhone users have disdain for someone with a different colored dot in iMessage. People are goddamn strange.

[KickSpinFilter]

Awesome, pretty sweet this should always be an option but not a default. Now just give it to me in a game I care about.

[bluebenjamin]

Its not fair the One X has a more responsive controller

[ThinkThink]

Seriously? Come on man.

[bluebenjamin]

Well it does 🤷🏿‍♂️

[Mr_Writer85]

@blueben

Get a M&K then problem solved.

[Abnor_Mal]

STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!

[IMissJimRyan]

Put just want The option to dont use it. It is like backward compatibility. Evebody wants, almost nobody uses it.

[TengHu]

Wasn't the Fortnite community getting their panties in a bunch last year about not having cross-play? Isn't this what they asked for? Why is it a problem now?

[Mr_Writer85]

It's not, it's only those who cried it was coming that are crying still.

[TengHu]

Really? I don't recall anyone crying about cross-play. It seemed like the majority, if not the entirety of the community, wanted cross-play.

I think this goes back to what PlayStation said about cross-play being anti-consumer.

[Mr_Writer85]

@teng

Well then you haven't been on N4G much have you 😂

Every article re CP had strange fanboys crying about how Sony don't need to prop up MS, and how the media had an agenda.

Fast forward and the same fanboys are still crying.

[ramtah]

so what is the problem? you guys asked for cross-platform now you have it

[xX1NORM1Xx]

Does it really matter? Controller vs controller is fine it’s not like it’s forcing you to match with pc players or something.

[averagejoe26]

Bahahaha

Sheep were begging for crossplay and now they're crying over it.

This is golden.

[Mr_Writer85]

@average

Yes it is 😂 its golden you think that those who wanted CP are upset over this.
😂😂😂
28514;😂😂㈳ 4;😂

[CYALTR]

I just don't understand all of the console drama. I play on an Xbox OneX, mostly because way back in the day I had an OG Xbox. PS4 is also a great console, there are advantages and disadvantages to both, that's why there is a choice. To me, it's kinda like Apple and PC, or Iphone and Android. They both accomplish basically the same things in somewhat different ways. Personally I stick with Android and PC, mostly because that is what I have always used, so it's easier for me. That doesn't make people who chose the other way stupid or uninformed, it is just their choice.

[TheVigilanteCode]

Nothing wrong with this at all.

Both these consoles are on equal footing. In fact, PS4 had M&Kb support for Fortnite (and Paragon) since the launch of the game. Xbox just got it.

Both pools will be significantly increased in matchmaking. It's the PC player pool you console guys should be worried about due to hardware advantages.

[akaFullMetal]

I figured this was eventually what would happen. Just makes sense to do crossplay with this type of game that is multplatform. As long as no one has an advantage who cares in the end.

[Alek83]

This is not the real issue. The consoles are pretty evenly matched, and now the pool for both is much larger.
The real problem is that Switch players with a Pro controller are now matched up against touchscreen using mobile players (phone and tablet).

Now the super funny thing is if a mobile player hooks up a controller to their device, they get matched up vs PS4 and Xbone. Epic is basically trolling mobile players. Only explanation I can come up with.

[Software_Lover]

Wow!

Some of these comments are the reason I still play Mass Effect, alone.