On this week's episode of IGN's PlayStation show, Podcast Beyond!, host Jonathon Dornbush is joined by Brian Altano, Max Scoville, and Janet Garcia to discuss the latest PS5 news, including a bunch of info about PS5 game preorder bonuses for Demon's Souls, Spider-Man: Miles Morales, and more, plus the confusing state of transferring saves from PS4 to PS5.
A total of 60 concept pieces for the canceled multiplayer Spider-Man title have surfaced as part of the recent Insomniac Games leak.
Yea i can definitely see this being scrapped and instead be used for that Spider verse game. Will interesting to see how they could tackle so many Spider people at once.
PushSquare: "We've always known PS Plus Extra and PS Plus Premium will have rotating catalogues with titles added and removed monthly, but it's unlikely anyone expected 32 games to be taken away all at once."
Surprised that any 1st-party title would be removed after being added. I think a good number of those have been there since day 1 of the updated service, so I guess many had similar service length deals?
As far as the games in total it is just telling us that those games had ab1 year License agreement.
As far as Spider-Man remember this is also Licensed from Disney. We aren't privy to the contracts at all. So we don't have the full picture. This is an inherent flaw to subscription services.
Well spider man is first party developed but licensed IP. Probably a Marvel request or part of the deal.
Kinda like MLB making Sony do a switch and xbox version of the show.
I would assume its because we'll see spiderman 2 gameplay soon, and they'll take it off until a couple months after the sequel releases.
maybe with hopes people will pay to play the first one if they haven't already
What Crazy says.
A smart business move.
There's opportunity for anyone buying intothe Playstation ecosystem for the dirst time.
That makes no sense. You'd want it out there to be played so people would be more inclined to buy the sequel. Same way most older games in a series go on sale before the release of the latest in the series is released.
Yeah I was surprised to see that as well. I feel like they have to do what it takes to make it profitable and avoid the race to the bottom that is GamePass. All they're getting is $40 a year for the "rental" part of the service, and I bet they're losing more than that from each of those customers in direct sales. I'd rather a mediocre Extra service than putting everything on Extra and spending less money on making the games great.
@MrMilchick except for ykbow quantum break and the older forza horizon titles that got removed....
I'm going to over simplify this just to make the point but here goes The logic is that in total Sony/MS needs you to give them money to fund making games. The more money they have from you, the bigger/better they can make those games. If they don't get a lot of money, they're not going to be able to make good games.
A good game costs $70. If you buy three good games a year from them you might spend $210. Let's say everyone has the basic online package. So you upgrade to Extra for $40/year. Let's say Extra is awesome...do you really need to buy 3 games at full price anymore, or will spend your time playing things that are "free" to you? Let's say you only buy 1 game instead of three. Now they've only gotten $110 from you instead of $210 and we haven't even accounted for how much money they had to spend to bring those hundreds of games to the service. So the "race to the bottom" is PS+ and GP trying to outdo each other in subscribers while making less and less money. Eventually the games will get worse because they will have less money to make them.
Phew, that was long
"Yeah I was surprised to see that as well. I feel like they have to do what it takes to make it profitable and avoid the race to the bottom that is GamePass."
Lol. Sony is just a bunch of greedy f$%@! Spider Man sold about over 33 million copies and they still feel the need to use it to squeeze and niquel dime Playstation gamers even with Spider Man 2 around the corner.
Sony won´t allow day one first party games on PS Plus and apparently even older first party games won´t stay in the service.
And they expect PS Plus to compete with Gamepass with this strategy? Well, good luck for them. I guess it´s easy to understand why Gamepass is the best gaming service in the world. And will only gets stronger as competition is nearly non existent.
Has this many games ever been taken off the service at once before aside from when PS Now got retooled
This is by far the biggest list of games taken off in a month, previously it's only been a handful. For myself specifically there's a couple games from my backlog coming off, but nothing huge, and most of the games can be grabbed for a couple bucks on sale, so wont matter toooo much for me. It does suck to see them go though.
It's better too just get essential and buy extra or premium as and when required.
I don't know why gamers can't fathom that lol.
I've had extra twice and premium once since the start, essential for the rest of the time.
"Last day of June" is wonderful game
Hahaaha..thats what i did and i got it for a 50% discount too during Christmas time. Im still on essential right now. Once Kena drops ill upgrade to extra for lesser price too.
I don't much care for the older titles so Premium isn't worth the $20/year upcharge for me. And I'm not streaming games.
But the $40 /year to get all the games in Extra is kinda a great deal for what you get so far imo.
I don't even pay for their online service anymore... Why? Steam is free.... Best online value in gaming.
You can save up to 100 GB of PS4 saved data and 100 GB of PS5 saved data. The number of PS4 saved data files you can store is limited to 1000. (does steam offer that too?) /s
I mean fwiw, your $60/year also gives you some decent games each month, which Steam doesn't. On PC you have Epic free games but they're rarely any good.
Still, you get online for free, so yeah it's a good value.
For me this is one of the reasons I don't pay for a subscription service like PS Plus or Netflix. You never own anything, you cannot play or watch at your own pace because at anytime games or movies can be removed.
Why anyone paid for it up front and didn't see how the games pans out blows my mind.
This is why I’m always physical over a service especially for those big titles. Does downloading them save you from not being able to play them?
I dont find any issue with gamepass game is out download it if i like it i finish it in 2 to 3 month (i usually play 5 games in same timeperiod 1 of each genres) while it will be in the store at least for a year
Orchard the difference between the services is the sheer number of quality AAA games versus filler/ slash decades old games on the other.
@hof
The AAA games that come to the service are games that can be had for dirt cheap, used, by the time they put it on Playstation Plus.
The only time Sony ever surprised me there was with Last of Us 2, and that's really only because Last of Us 2 sales dropped off a cliff fairly quickly at the time (not saying it didn't sell well, but sales stagnated quicker than usual), and they were really trying to boost the low sub base for PS Now.
And there is loads of filler on Playstation Plus. Let's not kid ourselves. Even when I was one of just a handful of people who actually had PS Now as well as PlayStation Plus, I was never all that impressed with what they offered.
They've gotten better now that they're trying to compete more with Gamepass, but the service has a long way to go.
@madlad
True comparing ps plus premium 19$ with gamepass 7$ is won by miles by gamepass, the only poeple to think ps plus premuim have a great value is new players in the platfrom, if i didnt already finish PS exclsuives i would've bought 2 month of sub and finish the games i want in long play setions
I still don't see this $19 PS and $7 Gamepass. You're comparing the highest tier of PS membership so use the highest tier of Xbox too not the lowest which is $15 a month. And no one's buying premium monthly. Its $120 a year and that's without discounts which MS don't offer. So that becomes $80-90 as they're offered frequently through the year. So your $19 PS vs $7 XB just became $7 PS vs $15 XB
@onisama
"True comparing ps plus premium 19$ with gamepass 7$ is won by miles by gamepass, the only poeple to think ps plus premuim have a great value is new players in the platfrom, if i didnt already finish PS exclsuives i would've bought 2 month of sub and finish the games i want in long play setions"
Pls eNglish m0re okie-ay yeeahs? /s
PS+ Premium (PS+P) is only $17.99 USD/mo (regular price) Game Pass for Consoles and Game Pass for PC is $9.99/mo (regular price).
Game Pass: 9.99*12=119.88
PS+P /mo price: 17.99*12=215.88
PS+P 3mo price: 49.99*4=199.96
PS+P /yr price: $119.99 USD!
Oh would you look at that... PS+ Premium costs $119.99 for a whole year same as Game Pass does!
Guess what? Game Pass Ultimate is $14.99/mo
14.99*12=179.88
179.88>119.99 which means PS+ Premium is cheaper! And PS+ Premium has over 800 right now games while Game Pass Ultimate has 437 and to get access to all of those you need an Xbox Series console because PC has 11 less games to choose from while game streamers have access to only 337 of those... yikes!
You can stream all your games from PS to a phone or PC though even if you're not near your system and you can use a DS4 or DualSense controller on mobile and PC via the Remote Play app for Android, iOS, OSx and Windows.
So not only does PS+ Premium cost less than Ultimate it costs just as much as Game Pass for Console and still offers more games.
Depends on what type of gamer you are. If you want a collection physical is better, but some people just want to play and beat it and move on, and don't care to collect.
The new patch v1.817.1.0 for Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered fixes some of the most annoying and common ray-tracing and crash issues.
This is another one of those "PS5 can only have fake 4k, PS5 only have 100 BC, PS5 will explode from overheat" so much FUD.
I couldn't sit through enough of this to get to the part about save files. Is it that there's no info on PS4 -> PS5 games using the same save files or something? I mean, if it supports BC, it's going to support the old save files. That sounds like a given. I don't know what the confusion would be here.
It's not confusing whatsoever
Everything seems to be confusing to these poor journalists these days, how strange.