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Sony Interactive Entertainment's upcoming single-player PC games like God of War Ragnarok and Until Dawn will require a PSN account.
Sony will lose support and money from 177 countries that support Steam but do not support PSN!
Tell me about stupidity, I'll tell you Sony.
Its concern is to increase the number of PSN subscribers, at the expense of profit and
More sales for their games from 177 countries.
Thing is it’s free to create an account (for pc players)
So they don’t need essential / extra / premium tiers, there is literally no good reason. Stupid but I don’t know the ins-and-outs but I can imagine it’s just a dumb reason
Ohh actually maybe it’s to combat piracy, so the game will not launch unless you have psn, then Sonys server end would validate if it’s a real copy or a cracked one
That could be it
Ding ding ding. Your edit brought the answer. Lol
Sony wants to validate their games on PC so that they know who's legit and who stole them. I understand Prince in that we have too many accounts we have to make. And it's a slippery slope. Like ported Xbox games to PlayStation will require a Microsoft account. Besides the already Ubisoft accounts and Epic accounts. Hard to keep up with all these names and passwords.
But you figured it out.
so you are saying it's another DRM? And is it always online? even though it's single player offline game?
Its free... sure. The main issue are the countries that are not on the list to select when creating the account. And I don't think Sony allows nearest neighbor, where you pick the one closest to you that is supported. People can obviously pick any country they want from the list, but that then becomes saddled to them going forward. Personally my country is supported, and I have not felt the need to change it so I dont even know if you can after the fact. If I were to move to an unsupported country... would the games even work if it detects me playing it from one when I am registered in the other?
This all stems from the whole Helldivers fiasco. Countries that support steam, and let them buy it and play only to have them cut off because their country was not officially part of the PSN account creation which was later enforced after the fact.
I believe every Sony single player game has leaked online the same day it releases. Needing a psn account to play the game legally isn't gonna change the fact it'll be pirated same day.
They'll find out sadly that most of their games are pirated, Ghosts of Tsushima over 500k people downloading it not on Steam, It sold below 70k on Steam.
Black tiger, we all know games are stolen all the time on PC. Stolen to play. Stolen and emulated to play older system's games. The only way to stop it or slow it down is to have some type of security measure.
They're businesses. They have every right to protect what they make. PC gamers don't have ANY right to steal it.
There's a grey area when it comes to games purchased and the companies make your purchase unplayable through updates it closing servers. And we decide to take measures in our own hands to continue playing what was rightfully purchased by downloading it modding the code. But it's still theft.
Some gamers don't like the measures because they want the option to steal. Not everyone does. But many on PC do. That's just the reality. You can hide from the truth. But the truth is still there.
What good does it do to create an account (with fake information from another country) if the game isnt released in Steam in that country anyway?
Or are you expecting people to also have to create another steam account in another country in order to link it to the PSN account they now have to make, just to be able to play Sony games?
Its a dumb and unnecessary situation, simple as that
You make a good point about piracy. Still weird Sony is the only one under fire about this even though they aren't alone, ea, ubisoft, Microsoft, etc. I don't know why Sony doesn't sell in those countries, but it's their prerogative.
@prince
I agree and i see the defenders are here
Once again everyone you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles.
The use of programs like vpns are a banable offense to sony and like so many other companies are monitoring your chat/activity via ai bots.
You should not half to buy a game then fill out a form like your buying a gun just to play a single player game.
Every other launcher like ea/ubi/rstar/acti/blizzard/bet h You just need a email address/password acti has on some game the bs phone # crap or unless your going to buy something then yeah real info. But sony like i said you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample but that will be for psvr 4 and or ps6.
You're full of bs. I literally just made a fake psn account in el salvador and i had no issues. All i did was google map an address and a zip code and voila, psn account. Did not need to add any personal information.
Where does it state you need ps+ to play online on steam? You're being purposefully hyperbolic and dishonest or just stupid in order to spin outrage because you hate sony for very dumb reasons.
choo choo here comes the sony blind boys
I never said you need psplus for steam never
I also said sense 2023 again 2023
But i get it its sony they do 0 wrong
“…you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample”
Nobody wants your dna. I promise you.
"...you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles."
It's one thing to be a hater but it's another to be full of crap.
1. I have multiple accounts in 4 countries for several reasons. And making the PSN accounts is free.
2. Lose your account, you lose everything associated with that account? Wow...like every other accounts too? WTH are you on about?
Though I agree with you it sucks to have to create an account - literally not a single thing that you said was true.
-You don't need real information.
-You can have any number of accounts.
-Its rare to lose a PSN account, but the game is still tied to Steam no matter how you slice it. Once you have it, your game can't be taken away by anybody but Valve.
-You won't be banned for playing a single player game with a VPN on.
--There is no form or ID required.
-The Sony "form" requires the exact same details as Steam. It also doesn't need a phone number.
There are very real reasons why the account requirement is bs but every other comment covers that.
Who gives a shit, they don’t want to sign up, they can always play other games and sign up to their requirements instead. You want PSN games, you sign up to PSN. Same applies to every other platform.
Sony fans don't care... They don't get the concept of why this screws gamrers over. Sony fans only know how to shill for the Corp.
Are we always going to get news articles on this? Yes, any Sony game on PC now requires a PSN and won’t be accessible to regions that don’t have the PSN infrastructure.
Exactly ots not like.on PC we already have so many different launchers.
Rockstar
Ubi
Epic
Battlenet
Steam.
GOG
What's one more and I already have a PSN account
Meh, I mean in the 90's and early 2000's some games had built in server browsers or built in lobby/chat systems like Worms 2 and it's sequels, if not we had GameSpy or Wireplay to find online players.
Multiple launchers is kind of annoying though, TBH I would prefer just one..
If you read the 2023 psn terms of service but this is sony so i know 90% here did not this is a pc killer.
Not only do you need real information so one account no way to make a dummy account and they need your address/real name some countries a drivers license but they also use ai to monitor you.
In there terms they are checking your ip address as the use of VPN's is against the terms and programs that cheat are also bannable but in the list they think 3rd party antivitus is cheating.
So yeah paying for god of war then filing out a form like your going to buy a gun just to play the thing to me sound's stupid but i am not a sony blindboy.
Looken
I didn't know that. It sucks and I for one will be very watchful of what I buy in the future from Playstation on PC. It's like Sony can't stay out of its own way when it comes to success of their games
Why is this a problem? Just curious. Don't you need accounts for Steam, Xbox, Gog, Epic Games,EA, Blizzard,etc..? Why is it a problem if you need PSN?
There are close to 200 countries around the world. MS is supported in 98%, Steam 90%. Sony... less than 50%.
How much of a % do these 177 countries equate to Sony’s overall sales by region?
LOL, I saw the list of countries that aren't supported by PSN, I don't think Sony has anything to worry about with any of them. These aren't the kinds of places where game consoles and games are selling significantly enough to matter anyway. Just certain people are trying to blow this out of proportion.
Trust me in those countries its cheaper to buy a console than build or buy a pc that can run ps5 games. Taxes and import duties are a real killer for graphics cards etc.
@ Darthv72 Ahhh yes. All the people complaining on forums are people from Cameroon. It's definitely not people who it won't affect making a massive deal out of nothing
...doesn't affect me one bit. All I did was provide a logical answer to the question hiro asked. People disagreeing does not refute the facts presented.
@buff
Its funny you can tell the Americans so much now
Japan is part of the list sony has banned ghost of tsumia pc version people in japan wtf? every American meh im fine with this as they give sony all ther information.
Not to mention in alot of countries that this game is supported you still have issues with getting a valid working address then the whole information that they need. I would never give sony my govt id fuck that.
IMO, because it's a dumb requirement. Steam already has DRM built-in and it's working fine. And affected games are offline singleplayer games. This requirement doesn't help the players, only Sony stats.
Does this make tbe game better? No. Does this help the player or does it improve their experience? Also no. So why is this required? Just cause. So why anyone defends this again?!
All those compaines need a email/password that is it oh your ea account got banned well unlink that one from steam make another relink sesne the game is on steam.
Sony need You email address password first/last name home phone home address/postal proof of age location country and ip address then will monitor you 24/7. You will also need payment information on console for ps +
You can only have one psn account sense it need's your real info in some countries it needs a attached govt id.
Your psn account gets banned then all these games are dead to you and your playstaion consoles are bricked sense you need a psn account/ps + to go online/get updates etc
You can not make a new account sense it will say hey you already have that info on this account that is banned sorry gtfo.
MAUs is clearly just as important to Sony.
I say make signing into PSN optional. Give players a reason to use it.. like the recently announced layer that lets you earn trophies.
I'm not bothered but there are countries who won't have access to the game because of this.
Release date and PC features for God of War Ragnarök announced.
LOL. I'll give you that one whole month sooner than exactly 2 years.
Edit: Not even that. Half a month. Day 1 releases are a comin' soon!
Still closer to a two year wait than not. Guess any hope of everything from Sony going to PC day one is shrinking though.
***Hopefully we will get PS exclusive multi-platform sooner rather than later as i want Sony to lose their monopoly of the gaming industry and to stop destroying MS. ***
Monopoly. of. the. gaming. industry. ???
Mobile market $91B
PC market $36.5B
Console market $52.2B
Sony market $30B
Did we change the definition of monopoly at some point?
I'm all on board games going more places, but these ridiculous statements and drive to act like Sony SP exclusives are shooting to be Day 1 releases anytime soon aren't doing that. It's just bad arguments.
Replies(1)Next up, Last of Us Part 2, then Spiderman 2, and most likely Demon Souls in between. I know the argument is that they take 2 years and "who is gonna wait 2 years?" Blah blah blah, but most of their recent and all of their PS5 games, with the exception being Demon Souls, have made their way to PC. Never thought I'd see the day where I wasn't going crazy over not owning a PS, but now I don't want a PS5 at all.
Demon Souls being the only Souls game out of the entire series that has remained exclusive to SONY would definitely sell like crazy on PC. Oh and GT7, always forget GT cause I don't play racing SIMS.
Find it a bit strange that Nixxes isn't porting this one. Maybe they were contracted for both GoW ports?
Although their GoW PC port job was pretty good, it wasnt flawless at launch, but was still miles better than Horizon 1 or TLOU ports.
Hope they do a better/near flawless job with GoW sequel.
Thankfully the different SIE regions operate largely in an independent manner, so SIEA's decision to release some US-made games like Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima or God of War on PC still hasn't made a dent in SIEJ's decision to keep their japanese games like Bloodborne, the Last Guardian, or Gran Turismo 7 on Playstation, or SIEE's decision to keep EU-made games like Killzone Shadow Fall, Dreams, or Sackboy A Big Adventure on PS.
But that was on the PS4. Now for upcoming PS5 games, who knows.
The Nerd Stash: "Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 has some of the best graphics on Xbox, but there are PlayStation games that look even better."
Lol some sony fans now disagreeing with DF !?
They said :
Hellblade 2 is a defining moment in the evolution of real-time graphics".
(The Next Level in Real-Time Visuals)
Game
Takes advantage of everything UE5 offers
- Final game 'lives up to the lofty expectations' of the 2019 reveal
- Character rendering sets new standards and nearly resembles movie sequences with actual actors
- Leverages Unreal's Meta Human 5 to bypass the uncanny valley feel
- DF were left guessing whether some cut-scenes were in-game or real life footage (photo mode shows they're all real time)
Also
https://i.ibb.co/m4zMw3M/20...
,
https://i.ibb.co/2YtX6Tv/20...
Right now nothing on PS looks better than HB2.
5 PlayStation Exclusive Games" also on PC..
so what Exclusive? No one here confesses and accepted the word "Console exclusive". they were making jokes about it!
😂
@FTLmaster
Sony fans were making jokes first about the word " Console exclusive" here and on other sites.
Now they use the word by themselves.
Lol
I write console exclusive all the time. I use it in Xbox’s favor too. Those are the games I generally go after over there.
Now I understand who these articles are written for.
Just buy and support the game so MS doesn't shut down Ninja Theory.
You cant really talk when xbox has all its games released elsewhere. Not a good look.
This article says Bloodborne and Ghost of Tsushima has better graphics than Hellblade 2 i'm done! 🤣
Of course! But that doesn't make it invalid.
I haven't been playing too much recently except a bit of Dave the Diver (retro pixel art). But if this has the best graphics then I definitely want to see so will download it for my XSX and start the game. If I had more time I'd play through the first one first.
DF can talk from its arse all it wants. I’m sure they are spending their advertising money wisely.
I was under the impression Microsoft didn't have any marketing for this game. I also don't need to be paid to say Hellblade 2 is the most photo realistic game on consoles ever made.
People are free to disagree with DF, it's debatable how impartial they are.
The article is a bit of a stretch though. Hellblade has an open goal graphically because it's using the latest tech on small areas with crap framerate so the fidelity is through the roof. It's not impressive to me personally but it's an achievement that shouldn't be denied.
Yes. But then a picture can be extremely beautiful but you cant really play it. Hellblade must be beautiful but it has low frames, and its pretty much on rails so it does not really impress me personally.
I've been subscribed to DF's YouTube channel since before their videos were even narrated and I tell you no debate is necessary about how impartial they are.
DF has clearly had some level of proximity with Microsoft since the launch of the Xbox One X. They haven't exactly tried to hide either. Their coverage/damage control for Starfield was quite blatant.
So yes, people on all camps are free to disagree with DF's opinions.
That aside, this particular article is complete flamebait.
what good are graphics when rest of the game is a walking sim (coming from a pc fan) if it's only about graphics than any game can push the boundary but that's without much gameplay
to me gears of war 5 is more impressive because it had the graphics and gameplay to back it up, just like uncharted 2 back in the day. Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart is also up there.
I don't understand people. Both the PS5 and Xbox one X are great machines. I own both and could care less which system has a game that is marginally better looking than the other. Yes, Hellblade 2 is the best-looking console game right now, but it isn't a huge leap over what the PS5 has. Since I am not tied to one company's console, I see things differently I guess.
Agreed, plus traditionally all PS exclusives are third person action and everything on Xbox is usually FPS.
Let’s talk gameplay people, you know, that thing that actually matters? I remember Gamepro would rate “Fun Factor” in their reviews—is the game actually fun to play?!
If this was the judging method, and not resolution and “bespoke tech” that digital foundry wants you to be obsessed with, than Dave the Diver is my GOTY so far (ps5)
Grasping at straws to make a positive Playstation story. Too bad they can't talk about AAA first party games. Because "PS5 has NO GAMES!!!" Why can't people just be honest. HB2 looks amazing.
Woah there little fella, you are way lost in what is no longer reality, hope you left bread crumbs
Digital foundry recently said ps5 ports are holding back Xbox
You can’t really take them as gospel anymore
Okay, I've played all of those, and they looked good for their time. This game just takes realism to a whole other level. some would even say uncanny valley-esq at times.
Maybe that's why people are having a hard time with this game... its almost too real and makes them uneasy about it.
lol, really???? The title sounds so desperate. Those games are excellent but not in the same league.
..."not in the same league graphics wise*" Fixed it so you don't sound too crazy. Also not sure its in "another league" but I haven't seen it in person so 🤷🏽 idk.
All of those games on that list are literally objectively BETTER GAMES than Hellblade 2.
I would say those games are on a much higher level because Hellblade is a game made to look great but its not on par when it comes to how it is linear with small playing areas and low frames. Anyone can do that, but is it a good game? No.
If this is an argument, then yeah , this is desperation. Why do you sonyboys even care? The market always dictates, besides last I checked (as a ps5 owner) sony exclusives are few and far between, at least anything worth playing that is. And if I can play it on ps4 I'm not too then I'm not calling it exclusive.
You make it sound like Xbox has so much more games than Playstation, but, they have far fewer. Playstation has far more better 3rd party exclusives filling the gap too.
Chirping about Playstation when Xbox gets a game ever like 3 years worth talking about is idiotic. Would take the most recent FF, Gran Blue Relink and Stellar Blade over Xbox poor offerings any day of the week. Death Stranding 2 and Silent Hill look more interesting than HB2.
No, that's not what I'm saying. The point is this is such a petty non argument yet you sonyboys just take the bait and bitch regardless. Xbox is dying but you gotta keep claiming how great your corporate brand is.
Must be another zero news week
Then why feed the fire then? Lol. Hellblade 2 is barely a game. The 1st one we literally had a ton of Xbox fans call it a walking simulator when it was timed exclusive to Playstation. Now people are reiterating similar sentiments about the 2nd game when it's much of the same with minimal 'gameplay' and Xbox fans are offended.
Ironically the very same idiots chirping said that all Playstation games were just 'cinematic' experiences as a slight and now we got guys like you with the oh whoa is me like it wasn't expected?! Lol. Seriously idiotic
...now I remember why I hate gaming media, it's because 99.9% are like this article.
yeh, probably gonna have to wait for 'Death Stranding 2: On the beach', to get better environments and facial animation than this.
Yeh there was a lot going on in uncharted
A lot of moving parts
Explosions
Jumping from planes
You could say it was the more accomplished game. Hellblade looks like god of war, but without the sick fighting,
can't wait too long for the game
I'm hoping to get a PS5 before these games come out.
One can hope.
:(
Damn scalpers!
>:(