New PS5 Model Is Lighter Due to Smaller, Worse Heatsink And Runs Hotter

From PSU: "The new, revised models of the PlayStation 5 weigh in at 300 grams (0.66 pounds) lighter than the original models. The big question has been “How?” With the specs and outer form factor the same, what has Sony changed or sacrificed to result in the new model weighing less. The answer is a smaller heatsink, resulting in the revised console running hotter."

[Christopher]

It's only 3-4 degree difference and isn't an overheating issue. And, the fans are designed to ramp up as heat increases, so where it is doesn't matter as it would generate heat in an enclosed space eventually regardless if you don't have ventilation. Not an issue with the console.

But, hey, let's use "significant" and "worse" to sell the video while ignoring how fans work.

Edit: They also completely gloss over that the new fan has longer fan blades by not having empty space towards the center. That means more air moved each rotation.

[blackblades]

Sooo clickbait right

[Sonic-and-Crash]

you easily understand what will follow and how they will mis- present the thing when the guy has behind him only Nintendo and Xbox swag

the heat sink may be smaller (with insignificant perfomance details) but is more robust from screen and it may solve the louder sound on some PS5 s that imo comes from the big leafs of the old heatsink

[Christopher]

If that's all it was, I would go with that. But, there is a reasonable breakdown in there that others don't have right now.

[VenomUK]

Hey Guys I’m Austin received undeclared sponsorships from Microsoft -true facts. So if he is the one that comes out with negative appraisals of PlayStation products then that makes it a conflict of interests from him and Microsoft.

Go check out his YouTube page.

[Orbilator]

For sure, he always been pro Xbox, I'm an Xbox user and even I can see this is just a clickbait article.

[EvertonFC]

Scares me 19 people disagreed

[gazgriff2k12]

No not at all watch it without any bias

[CobraKai]

Thanks. Saves me from wasting my time.

[ElvisHuxley]

You make more money focusing on traffic than you do being honest, a seemingly irreconcilable problem with media in general.

[--Onilink--]

So…while I agree that its not that big of a deal, 3-4 degrees measured that way (which is not really an accurate way to do it), its very likely an even higher difference at the actual component (gamersnexus explained it very well on their initial PS5/Series videos)

probably just a couple more degrees diference, but still though, 5-6 degrees is still a 10% increase, which is not marginal by any stretch, though surely nothing to actually worry about. I do hope they also took the opportunity to improve the cooling that was lacking in some of the memory modules

Also, they did mention the difference in fans, they even checked if they had the same weight

[Christopher]

They mention it but don't explain why that's important at all. But, they spent minutes on the heat while *never* mentioning that the fans will still upswing when it reaches certain internal temperatures while using an external camera device measurer rather than the much more accurate internal measuring device.

Honestly, it's like they found the best way to make it sound bad while ignoring what was done that was good.

[John_McClane]

Gamers Nexus did a test on the launch PS5 and said the ram ran extremely hot and called for Sony to fix the design. Maybe they did with this new unit, only time will tell.

[gravedigger]

Not necessarily. Regarding RAM, Spawn Wave tested RAM in the same way as Gamer Nexus ( with multimeter and sensors on chips )and got temperature 79 degrees with plates on console, Nexus got 88 C with no plates

Worth watching :

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[gravedigger]

Austin Evans is Xbox guy ( he said that PS5 has boost clocks, indirectly saying that PS5 is 9 TF console ) Only Xbox people are saying this. And saying that new PS5 is worse because he measured exhaust temp with damn MOBILE PHONE which is idiotic at least.

Old PS5 one is overengineered while Sony were settling on final clocks etc and didn’t have a complete thermal picture.

Its the heatpipes that take the heat ( in new PS5 they are longer by a double ) away anyway, not the sink - the sink removes the heat from the pipes to be taken away by passing air. There is still a lot of heatsink surface areas so as long as that is soaking away heat into the airstream and allowing the heatpipes to continue to have capacity to remove it from the APU I see no issue.

Quieter means they’re achieving enough cooling with slower fan speed - which may or may not mean lower airflow depending on the fan design and airflow channels. And hotter exhaust suggests they’re removing more heat. So this may be a *better* design despite being smaller

Needs an APU heat probe to be a more complete picture but not sure someone like gamers nexus will care.

Measuring exhaust temps with MOBILE PHONE is useless. You can have higher exhaust temps but lower component temps. Hopefully there will be a better test to confirm one way or the other.

Old tweet from GE :

"Taking a thermal image of the back of a PS5 is not a thermal test. It should be hot. That means it's working properly. It'd be like thermally imaging the back of a passive PSU and declaring that one near ambient under full load is "good" because all the heat is trapped in the box"
https://twitter.com/GamersN...

Anyway, Gamer Nexus straight out laughet to Austin's testing methodology :

"A lot less copper doesn't mean worse cooling. Where is the 3-5C number from? Is that from a real test by someone? Sony?"

https://twitter.com/GamersN...

"The number is taken by a thermal camera at the exhaust."
"lol. OK."

https://twitter.com/GamersN...

[Orbilator]

I could have three GPUs in my pc all same spec and same manufacturer. And I bet they don't all run at the same temp, I bet the spread is much bigger in temps than 4 degrees. This is total bull , 3 to 4 degrees is not an issue at all.

[gamer7804]

this is how headlines work, but the article is accurate and technically the title is too. The heatsink is not as good, and the console runs overall hotter which is not a benefit. The overall toll on the console may be come to light in coming years but it could also not make a difference in the end if the heat is pushed out better or the amount of heat is not enough to affect long term.

Also they do mention the longer fans in this quote "The wing blades on the new 17-wing Delta protrude longer into the center than the original 23-blade Delta fan."

I appreciate these differences in the consoles being explored in articles like this, like the xbox 360 consoles that had differences, I want to make informed purchases.

[Nitrowolf2]

runs hotter based on what, the exhaust heat? I'm no expert but wouldn't that be an indicator that the console is pulling out more heat, thus providing a more cooling internally?

If it you want to measure if it's actually running hotter you measure the internal, not where the heat comes out. I would be concern if it was pulling that kind of heat if the internal was also hotter than the base models.

I mean, this is in theory correct right? If I throw a exhaust on a empty box that is filled with heat, one pulls 40 degree and the other box pulling out 45 degree, wouldn't that mean the inside of the 45 degree is getting cooler at a faster, bigger rate? it's such a small difference for sure, but that's how that works.

Hardly seems accurate when he's measuring with a phone too

[gamer7804]

Nitrowolf2 His methods aren’t the most accurate but can be used as a comparison if the same methods are used on both. Either way hotter isn’t good. Amount of airflow could be a factor though.

[gravedigger]

No, gamer 7804. Austin's testing methodology is pure crap. Even Gamer Nexus mocked his testing methodology ( pointed it out in few posts above). Higher exhaust temp. doesn't mean it is worse. On the contrary :

Do you see the main difference? Peoples jumped on less material, but i see a drastic design change. The new design assures that there's no more than 2 banks of heatsink for the airflow to cool, while previous design it would go up to 3 (very thick 3) at the bottom left of the heatsink on older PS5. To me it seems they realized that the airflow was really not properly cooling the 3rd row. At some point the air getting to the 3rd row will probably have lost momentum and create more like an hot air pocket, stagnant almost, as the static pressure even if it still has some airflow, is not optimal and is hindering the cooling performance of the 3rd and 2nd bank of heatsinks.
Reaching temperatures over guarantees, reconfiguring the cooling system, and voila, a rearrangement of the cooling bank in a subsequent revision was often with less material, but more inteligently built.

[gamer7804]

@gravedigger we need much more in depth analysis and testing before saying anything conclusive. In general hotter is not necessarily better given the same airflow and housing design

[gravedigger]

Quote :

"@gravedigger we need much more in depth analysis and testing before saying anything conclusive. In general hotter is not necessarily better given the same airflow and housing design "

Same airflow? airflow isn't the same if heatsink is smaller and fan RPM is lower since it is queiter. That means there is more airflow space inside the console and smaller heatsink with a fan which pushing more heat outside of it, means it is more effective cooling solution

[1nsomniac]

When your variable clock rates are dependant on core temperature, 3-4 degrees is massive.

I would be shocked if that’s a true reading with such a minor heatsink change tho. You’ve got to consider that possible 4 degree increase is on top of what could already be an environmentally hot area. That could easily create a visibly noticeable down clock.

[IRetrouk]

It's hotter at the exhaust, which means the systems now better at moving hot air away from the internals🤦‍♂️

[1nsomniac]

… 🧐 that’s the whole point…. If it’s hotter at the exhaust then the silicon is getting hotter so it’s having to dissipate more. Which will also increase environmental temperature which in turn further increases internal temperatures. As is the circle of thermal physics. That’s how it works.

[chiefJohn117]

But it still isn't a lie, it runs hotter making the fan worse. However it's not that big a deal as far as we can tell

[IRetrouk]

The exhaust heat is hotter, which means the heatsink is doing a better job at cooling, not worse....the fan is also a better design🤦‍♂️

[Zarock]

Hotter means lower GPU boost clocks though.

[IRetrouk]

Hotter exaust heat mans the heatsink is drawing more heat away from the console...

[spwittbold]

"only 3-4 degree difference." Since you seem so inclined to give science lessons on fans, here's a lesson in elementary math.

"Only a 3-4 degree difference." This is just an uninformed statement. A sad one too when they said in the video why 3-4 degrees matters here. This is also why your math teachers have you providing a label to go along with your answer in grade school and beyond - scale matters and in this case it's Celsius not Fahrenheit.

In electronics.....3-4 degrees Celsius can be the difference between overheating and throttling a GPU/CPU performance. An example an AMD CPU will often begin throttling around 90+ degree Celsius, below that it should should be operating at full performance (meaning 89 and below (generally.)

[IRetrouk]

It's exhaust heat though, that actually shows the heatsink is drawing more heat from the internals than what the original done..... this is an improvement, not sure why people are trying to twist it to bad.

[Sarcasm]

It's also Austin Evans, one of the worst "tech" youtubers, who has no actual tech knowledge and gained popularity because of his weird personality in the early stages of youtube's social media boom.

[gazgriff2k12]

The new model runs loader and hotter. If you owned a ps3 or ps4 then you will know why this becomes a big problem. Yes even a couple of degrees is going to have very serious effects on console life span and performance. One of the
reasons i was so hyped for ps5 was because its not very loud. It my not be a bid problem now but will be as console gets older and louder and hotter. I can not have a small jet engine under my tv anymore its the reason i stopped playing my ps4

[Rhythmattic]

I just watched it.... Total Poptarts they are........
I might have given this channel a 5.5 out of 10........ But its SOOOOOO Bad.. Ill give it a 5.2.

[z2g]

now I see why you pulled my article down.... the truth is emerging.

but if the performance of the heat index is hotter - ie not as good then its worse. that's the definition. doesn't matter if its a different fan or whatever, its running hotter.

the only reason they did this was to cut production costs. period.

[Obscure_Observer]

3-5 degrees. It got worse. Its simple as that.

It may or may not have an impact on console's lifespam. We don't know yet.

All we know that's good move for Sony's wallet. Gamers? Not so much.

[strifeblade]

Damage control... A few degrees hotter consistently will lessen the life span of the system especially 3-5 degrees no joke. Heat is the enemy of electronics. Normal human temperature is 37... What's a few degrees hotter right? LOL

[Christopher]

Not how it works when the temperature at which it starts to degrade lifespan is controlled by the fans.

[KingofBandits]

They also ignore the fact that the PS5 has ALWAYS had two fan designs. the full blade and the shorter blade. The Shorter blade fan runs quieter by about 5db (if I remember right) and that longer blade model was shown in Sony's official tear down video as well. This does not change the fact that this new model runs hotter and has a smaller/cheaper heatsink design, which in the long run probably wont mean much as the PS5 does not have over heating concerns. I can see though what has not changed is the power supply and its coil whine buzzing...which can be heard in the video on both models

[Jin_Sakai]

Nice. Just want everyone wanted to hear.

[Asuka]

So smaller heat sink overall and no longer any copper. Sure technically it does run hotter and that does make it "worse" but I don't think in the grand scheme of things it's going to matter. Sony sees an opportunity to cut cost and they believe that this is appropriate. Still a bummer though that we're losing that heat sink not even a year into this console cycle as it was one of the talking points leading right up to its launch.

[barom]

Can’t believe so many people just take the words for granted. The temperatures were measured on the outside of the PS5 where the vents are. This could mean that the PS5 is actually being more efficient at pushing the hot air out. Wait for a better analysis of you’re worried.

[IRetrouk]

The fact that the exhaust heat is hotter shows that the new heatsink is doing a better job at removing heat than the old one, the fans better too, this isn't internal heat they are measuring, just the exhaust.

[Asuka]

Yeah I think you're getting it backwards. It's hotter because the heat sink is smaller providing less surface area to dissipate that heat. Meaning the heat is more concentrated in a smaller area. So of course the exhaust heat is going to be hotter because the heat sink itself is hotter. And last I checked more heat does not equate to better efficiency.

Also as I said I don't really think this is a big deal Sony knows what they're doing they wouldn't purposely release something that's going to be faulty.

[DogJosha]

@Asuka
Sony has been subpar with their heating issues since before most of its users have been born. Never trust that they know what they are doing when it comes to heat management.

[IRetrouk]

You don't know any of that, we don't know what the internal temps are to compare, the only thing we know is the heatsink has got smaller and is removing more heat from the system than before, the heatpipes are twice as long as they were too, that could also help keep internals cooler...we just don't know enough to say its a worse design, and what we do know points to it being better.

[strifeblade]

Damage control man. Give it a rest.. It's worse and they cut cost at your expense. Move on

[babadivad]

That or the fans. Still a lot of variables that needs to be sussed out.

[barom]

At the end of the day, we do not have enough information. Seeing higher temps on the outside of the console is USUALLY a good thing as it most likely means it pushes out the heat better. In fact, it kind of is the only way for it to be cooler. That heat has to go somewhere. Check out the analysis of different PS4 Pro versions (think Digital Foundry did one) if you need evidence. People who build their PCs can also chime and tell you the same thing. It's all about moving the heat OUT.

If you add on the fact that it runs quieter too, then that's also a good sign as well though they changed the fan so we can't say much. The only bad sign is that it seems to run ~5W higher, which means there's a bit more heat generated inside the box but I doubt that 5W would make that big of a difference.

[Silly gameAr]

PSU can make anything positive sound negative. Man, I love N4G.

[Orchard]

PSU is not N4G or run by N4G - completely separate website, as are the other submissions.

And I highly doubt “PlayStation Universe” is anti PlayStation…

[Omegasyde]

This ^^^

[Orbilator]

Yeah but n4g gotta take some blame for publishing this trash on there website

[Knightofelemia]

Things change with board revisions everybody knows that a few degrees hotter I doubt will kill the machine. Sony thoroughly tests their shit last thing they want is to repeat the mistake Microsoft made with the 360 of heating issues. NA has yet to see the new board revision PS5's are still hard to find out in the wild. These guys make it sound like they never heard of a board revision before.

[Destiny1080]

old model 52 degrees / new model 55 degrees, these are very respectable no's just ask any Pc gamer

the main thing is, the new model is even quieter then the old model, i joke my PS5 is quieter then my phone even at 3 inch's away from it, i cant hear a thing, i don't even know what a PS5 sounds like, my Pc has two front fans and one rear all set to low, which is clearly audible in the dead of night but near silent during the day, but still a lot louder then a PS5

[--Onilink--]

Neither the PS5 or the Series consoles are running at those temps, thats just a camera pointed at the exhaust point (which is a really inaccurate method of doing so), the actual temps the components are running are much higher). When you look at temps in PC components, you know its the temp in the actual CPU/GPU.

The closest temps were provided by GamersNexus on their initial vids of the consoles, and even they said it was probably a couple degrees higher than what their results showed

[ecchiless]

yea theres no way an apu gonna run that low on temps when they are working for long periods, also is not like the console gonna fail at temps either.... pretty sure they can go up to 70° C

[Bladesfist]

@ecchiless Zen 2 specs lists all temperatures up to 100C as safe. Not sure about RDNA 2.

[strifeblade]

3-5 degrees. Not just the degrees. And it does make a difference in the life span

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Crazy clickbait

[ElvisHuxley]

It's like they think people are dumb, and believe that Sony would just release an inferior console that would cause them a ton of bad PR and expenses with warranty claims. As if they just assume that Sony hasn't done far more targeted and specific internal testing. As if games "journalism" has dropped every pretense and operates under the assumption that all of their viewers/readers are morons.

[Bladesfist]

Aren't most original Playstation console revisions better than the ones that came after it in some way? This isn't a big deal either, they are just saving costs on the heatsink and it's not going to effect you much unless you were already on the brink of thermal throttling in a super hot climate.

I imagine they will keep releasing new SKUs to optimize costs over the next few years. They are a business after all.

[Zhipp]

Most revisions tend to be worse in one way or another. Even the Xbox One S, which had superior specs to the OG model, got rid of the touch buttons. Companies will cut costs where they can. Sony most likely found that, in the real world, a cheaper, "inferior" cooling solution resulted in negligible affects to the actual usability and noise levels of the machine.

[13sentinel]

Look at the headline. Absorb it and take in the hyperbole. Breathe it in and let it flow through your lungs. Let the hyperbole become one with your spirit.

[Magog]

Taking a thermal image of the back of a PS5 is not a thermal test. It should be hot. That means it's working properly. It'd be like thermally imaging the back of a passive PSU and declaring that one near ambient under full load is "good" because all the heat is trapped in the box.

[--Onilink--]

Yes, its a bad way to gauge the actual temperatures, which a lot of media outlets use for some reason. Still though, they are measuring both units in the same way, so the difference is there (no surprise really, with like 40% less heatsink)

[Magog]

No it's measuring in a different location and removing heat is a good thing.

[elazz]

The only way the back is warmer is if the location of the heatsink is changed (which it is not) or if conductivity is better and thus transferring heat better. Maybe they improved the design. Just look at Noctua that can do far better cooling with less material than most other brands.

[OpenGL]

Magog... now that is a name I haven't heard in a long time...

I'll wait for more in-depth testing but this looks like a cost saving measure.

[SinisterMister]

Welp

[darkrider]

Clickbait attack! Another mindless «news» that gets approved. Yesterday was the SSD, today the console, tomorow the dualsense and next the headphones...

[rakentaja]

Headphone news are already in. The Elden Ring is currently being discussed, that the game does not support 3D audio, and what does this mean for us or PS5 owners. There is definitely something to talk about. Let's make a 20 minute video and discuss it.

[darkrider]

Agree. Also what about not having enough HDMI ports on the console or why isnt the power cable bigger.,,,

[KillBill]

Ouch... the amount of 'damage control' here. Worse heat sink... but hey the fan blades help resolve the issue with giving us a worse heat sink. But it still runs hotter... but hey only a few degrees that the fan can't compensate for. So we got a better system now? No, but Sony is saving money so you know... that is a good thing for us gamers? Again... Ouch.

[13sentinel]

Ouch, oowwwww ohhhh ouch this is devastating everybody because killbill said so. Massive issue incoming, ps5's are burning everywhere. Ps5 consoles are dead. SONY doomed. You just destroyed Sony dude, please have mercy on the people defending this tremendous issue.

[KillBill]

"...this is devastating everybody because killbill said so" really? Did I once say it was devastating? But go ahead and keep doing your 'damage control'.

[Silly gameAr]

Ouch, that comment is almost as bad as this article. But, you have to stay to the narrative, so you know. Again...Ouch.

[IRetrouk]

How can it be worse if its removing more heat?

[KillBill]

The heat sink is literally smaller. In no imagination does the idea the heat sink is doing better now that it is not as good fly. If you don't know how a heat sink works then why even comment?

[IRetrouk]

Clearly it being smaller makes no negative difference, it's removing more heat than the old one lol.

[KillBill]

To imagine that the hotter the temperature is on a device means the heat sink is doing better is simply not how it works. For sure the actual testing of a heat sink is done on the heat sink itself and not just testing ambient temperatures. But heat sinks dissipate heat over a larger area so it can be cooled. Which is what we saw in OG PS5 heatsink large copper area. Simply removing the large area and cutting down the heat sink and doing nothing more and then getting hotter temperatures as a result does not mean the heat sink is working better. You could remove the heat sink completely and get even hotter temperatures... would you then assert the PS5 was doing so great it is blowing even more of the hot air out even without a heat sink because of the rise in temperature? Of course not. Same as not attesting higher heat with reduction of heat sink area as an indicator of improvement. It simply doesn't doesn't work that way. But you go ahead and imagine that the PS5 v2 is some how working better now. lol

Now nobody is saying the heat sink is BAD. What is being said is it is not as good as it used to be. You could as example have racing seat belts in your car and then later remove those and put in regular seat belts. It doesn't mean the regular seat belts don't work it just means the racing seat belts would have proved better. You downgraded your safety. You didn't remove it... just made it less safe. Same with what Sony did here. They made the heat sink not as good as it once was. And in the case of GPUs and heat... always side with more heat reduction is better. "We need more cowbell!!!"

[SyntheticForm]

@KillBill

Of course it's not as good as it used to be; they reduced the size of the heatsink (the one they were sure they needed after copious testing) to cut costs. It's objectively worse - by exactly what margin I'm not sure.

@IRet

It's not the end of the world, but it's an objectively worse configuration. You have the same chipset with the same heat output with less of the heatsink they had originally. The reason the original heatsink was the size it was is because they concluded it was necessary for it to be that size.

There's rarely a situation where cheaper is better and I highly doubt that is the case here.

[Tedakin]

imagine if this was Xbox. I seem to remember the fake video of the Series X billowing smoke getting passed all over the place :P

[mkis007]

"Sony has had major problems with heat in their consoles" In what alternate reality is this guy living? Fan noise has been the only complaint for ps consoles. Unless there has been overheating issues in ps5's to date, the increase temp is a non issue. Tolerances are not even close to being hit.

[ArthriticPowers]

Mkis007 Fan noise matters....my ps4 pro was the only console I've owned where the noise was distracting (even when wearing a headset). Sounded like a jet engine running God of War. To be fair I did game with it on a pc monitor so I was always sitting fairly close.

Changed the thermal paste and the fan and it was quiete as a mouse. Still shouldn't of had to do that to a 2yo console that was only being used about 5hrs per week.

Fortunately it sounds like the new fan in these revised PS5's is up to the task in these early days and the systems running even quieter which is fantastic.

[Zhipp]

Fan noise is a heat-related issue. If they didn't have a heat problem, the fan wouldn't have been running so high all the time on the PS4.

[mkis007]

That is not the issue. The issue is he implied an overheating problem.

[Bathyj]

Wouldn't a hotter image of the exhaust mean it's expelling more heat than before?

Thanks Austin Evans.
How do I know that name?

[kneon]

well maybe. A more efficient cooling system will move more heat. But temperature does not equal heat. A higher volume of lower temperature air could be moving more heat than a low volume higher temperature air flow. just measuring the temperature of the exhaust flow doesn't tell you much.

[elazz]

Without actual sensor read outs its hard to know. But in general if the airflow is the same and more heat gets expelled it could indeed be a sign of better contacts, better liquid metal conductivity. Then again 52 to 55C is negligible.

[Viljong]

I knew this the moment i read about the lighter model. They can only cut the heatsink to reduce weight which ruin the cooling. My release day ps5 is still Whisper quiet in summer hot room playing latest games its a godsent feature after ps4 and ps4 pro running 7.1 avr hometheatre console no longer ruin the audio.

[elazz]

Cooling is not ruined. Without sensor temps its hard to tell. Maybe they use higher conductive liquid metal and better heatpipes. If the readout on the back of the console it might mean the actual SoC is having a lower temperature because more heat is conducted.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

Time to increase the prices for all the original PS5s I still have in stock. Thank you, Sony :D

[DivineHand125]

The only good scenario where I can think of cutting the heat sink size is that they did not have enough time to test the quality of the console prior to launch so they over engineered the heat sink to be safe. A year later, they now have a better understanding of what is actually required so they cut off the excess copper and aluminum they believed was giving them deminishing returns to make a more cost efficient console.

We will eventually see a more detailed breakdown of the impacts of this change when more hardware focused channels start testing it. I would love to see it they improved the cooling of the memory modules as this was one of the biggest concerns with the original unit as pointed out by Gamers Nexus.

[SyntheticForm]

"The only good scenario where I can think of cutting the heat sink size is that they did not have enough time to test the quality of the console prior to launch so they over engineered the heat sink to be safe."

This is a reasonable thought, though I'm glad I have the launch model that I have.

[darkrider]

So many expert that are smarter then a hardware company with hundreds of millions of consoles sold worldwide. Make sense on Mars.

[DivineHand125]

That means nothing as we have seen even reputable companies release products with hardware issues that eventually lead to a recall. This happens more frequent than you think and and even Sony is involved in some of these cases. Like in 2006 when they had exploding batteries which led to a major recall for all major laptop brands that used the batteries. Another high profile case which involves another reputable company is the exploding batteries that was in the Samsung Galaxy note 7.

As a consumer you should keep an open mind and not be so quick to defend or trust a product just because it is from a reputable brand. The criticism this new iteration of the ps5 is valid because a smaller heatsink will always lessen the cooling performance of the console.

I believe time will tell how well this turns out and we should be getting a more detailed analysis soon from one of the more hardware focused channels.

[darkrider]

You don't have enough data to say that. No one does except Sony.

[1nsomniac]

Hate to break your naivety but company’s primary objective is to cut costs and make more profits. It’s not to add free hardware updates that initially cost them money in production and design. To make the product better for you at less cost.

Come on, I don’t believe for a second that you don’t understand that.

[darkrider]

Dude this already been debunked in many sites. All the information is wrong. The new model is even cooler inside it take more heat from the inside... The so call «tech» youtuber already been shutdown all over the web. beside what many say about it....

«There no scenario where the new console is cooler», damn, what a moron.

But here read a engineer and not some youtuber talking crap about the new model.

Why the new PS5 has better cooling solution, isn't just only because of a better fan. But also with the marginally smaller heat sink, which we engineers wanna call for efficient usage of metal expansion & contraction. Which means that you get a much higher air friction towards the heat sinks fins at higher temperatures, thanks to metal expansion to the heat sink fins and the higher friction pulls the hot air molecules more easier of the heat sink fins & less air friction, but better air flow on lower temperatures, thanks to metal contraction to the heat sink fins and the lighter air flow through the heat sink fins gets the heat out/away from the circuit board side of the machine a lot easier. Most of these so called YouTube "tech channels", doesn't even know the basics of engineering. But they still here acting like they freaking do and these YouTuber's even believe that they come with true technical knowledge to the table. As i just explained it, it's exactly what PlayStation went with. Better air pressure and better usage of metal expansion & contraction to their marginally smaller heat sink. Which is a very cost efficient way to get a better cooling solution... It's all basic physics and knowledge how to actually engineer something to become more cost efficient

[1nsomniac]

Not arguing. Have a nice day.

[dbcoops]

Oh no its the end of days. I'm sure psu knows far more about how to build a console than the system engineers at Sony and Mark Cerny.

[BrettAwesome]

Austin is a phresh little punchable, dorky sellout. M$ has their hands so far up his ass, he hasn't been able to take a proper shit for years.

[Richhard1]

Another BS MS taunt, smaller cooler yes, cooler chip yes, in comparison tests the new design runs 4 degrees cooler.

[IRetrouk]

You a source for this? I'm interested in seeing the internal temp differences.

[anast]

It may be worse or not, but there is no way to know by reading this article. They weigh something spit out a number and link to an lazy YT upload and then yell "facts". Next, they slap a bait header on the article and wait for advert clicks. This is why this article is useless. Articles such as this are supposed to be helpful, but the information is an exercise in oversimplification and convoluted by intentional rhythm of prose, which is the opposite of helpful. There are so many other people that are actually qualified to translate complex information in a much more helpful way than this article.

[deadfrag]

Theres no issue arising from that smaller heatsink and the smaller up Higher temps!Sony over engineered the first PS5 model ..after one year Sony acknowledge that theres no heat problems with the first model and that they could indeed Run the system on chip with Higher temps and by doing it they can reengineering the cooler and produce more PS5 to meet demand.Its obvious that the first model seem better in the cooling department but if they can build more Systems for cheap to meet demand than its a win for Sony and most likely for people that are waiting to buy a PS5.Im pretty sure that this new model has been tested extensive for them to be able to procede with it for public release.

[John_McClane]

@gravedigger Thanks for the link, I'll definitely watch it. 👍

[moriarty1889]

should be improvements in less heat not more. more heat leads to shorter component and console life cycles. no way of spinning that.

[BrettAwesome]

More heat pulled out = less heat in system.
No way of spinning that. Not even for Austin Evans, that little M$ puppet

[z2g]

what was the point of this rev? obviously weight isn't a huge issue as nobody is packing their consoles around like a Nintendo switch. my guess is solidly on production costs.

[z2g]

this is a stupid article. who gives a sh*t. if its not catching anything on fire then why do we even care.

[ecchiless]

N_X_G

Post this on twitter:

This is incorrect, the surface area on the new design is different. Cost reduction yes, less cooling no, or at least not necessarily.

The fact external exhaust heat is higher is good, as more heat being dispelled. I would assume fan and RPM has also changed.

The Austin guy is a clown, got clowned by NXG and the nexus guy.... lmao

[gold_drake]

ugh Austin again. hes become too much of a Youtuber to be taken seriously.
this is a Clickbait video with HotTakes.

lets wait for DF video on it instead of listening to that guys opinion.

[ecchiless]

lol, check the twitter from DF they are calling the video "excellent and worth watching"..... lmao, N_X_G is much much bette that df...

[Orchard]

DF already commented on it and supports his video:

https://twitter.com/digital...

[ecchiless]

Lame ass response from them, but hey is expected:

when they were asked is was useless the pointed the camera to the exhaust they say this
"Absolutely there may be much more going on and perfectly valid explanations for the changes - this is why I've asked for comment."
Question from an user after that comment.
Droid: 27
@Alejandroid1979
"So there is no factual prove that the Colling on the new console is "worst", but the video is "excellent"
Well then..."
DF just go silent there.....

[UltimateRacer]

So the new PS5 isn’t worse but nice clickbate, a smaller heat sink yes and a small temperature rise however a better cooling fan and heat exiting the console quicker is a good thing, no doubt the temps are operating within there normal window and the heat sink is performing as it should, NX gamer stated it’s not worse then the original PS5 and that Evans is full of shit.