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Bethesda’s Todd Howard Confirms Starfield Performance and Frame-Rate on Xbox Series X and S

Starfield runs at 30 frames per second on both Xbox Series X and S, Bethesda’s Todd Howard has confirmed.

sparky77355d ago

Expected considering how immense this game is.

Jin_Sakai355d ago

Yes but it sucks. I can’t go back to 30fps after playing games at 60fps or even better 120fps.

darthv72355d ago

When choices are available, I will choose performance mode no question. If there is only quality mode, it is what it is.

Jin_Sakai355d ago

“When choices are available, I will choose performance mode no question. If there is only quality mode, it is what it is.“

I think developers should always offer a performance mode even if it involves more than a drop in resolution.

AuraAbjure355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

"I can’t go back to 30fps after playing games at 60fps..."

Haha, sucks 4 U. That means there are countless legendary video games already released you will never experience. Unless you already played all 5,000 of them.

Jin_Sakai355d ago

“Haha, sucks 4 U. That means there are countless legendary video games already released you will never experience. Unless you already played all 5,000 of them.“

I guess so. I just don’t care for 30fps and the laggy controls that come with it.

kneon355d ago

60 fps is overrated. the difference between 60 fps and 30 is 16.7ms , your reaction time is more than 10x that. It's just not that important no matter how much you try to convince yourself

DarXyde355d ago

kneon,

No. It is not overrated at all. There is a reason that competitive games (racers, shooters, and fighting games especially) all prioritize it.

Ever play Dark Souls at 60fps? How about Bayonetta on PS3 and Xbox 360? Drive Club feels nowhere near as good, immersive, or fluid as Gran Turismo.

It matters.

MadLad355d ago

@kneon

I can definitely see and feel a large difference than even 30 and 60; let alone higher.

So either what you're saying simply doesn't track, or I'm perpetually fooling myself literally every time I'm playing a game.

shinoff2183355d ago

There's nothing wrong with 30 fps, it isn't gonna make or break a game for a majority of us. As a Sony fan truth is starfield looks awesome as fk, and sony doesn't have anything to match it in their catalog. Shame because we would have gotten this but it is what it is. Now I've gotta buy a used series x starfield looked fantastic.

neutralgamer1992354d ago

Jin

I understand your point but when done right 30FPS could be smooth too. Issue here is Bethesda and they don’t have any excuses now they are only supporting 2 platforms so their available resources should be correctly utilized

Si-Fly354d ago

Get a PC then 👍🏻

Yui_Suzumiya354d ago

How would you do with 15fps?

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Christopher355d ago

Disagree. 60fps as a mode should be a focus of any AAA game today.

sparky77355d ago

For linear games or basic open world games sure, but something like Starfield with all those interactive objects would be a massive feat to get to 60fps especially considering how good it looks already.

He mentioned in the articles it hits 60fps a lot but they wanted it consistent so they locked it at 30fps, so it's possible we might get a 40fps mode sometime in the future.

Christopher355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

***For linear games or basic open world games sure, but something like Starfield with all those interactive objects would be a massive feat to get to 60fps especially considering how good it looks already.***

What? This is nonsense. Your interaction with objects is in its own mode and not live gameplay. You're not shooting in a blast out in space and modifying your ship in real-time. I'm not sure you understand that detail-oriented things are done in their own space and without relationship to those same levels of interaction once they are done. It's similar to gun mods, you are assigning attributes to things and shape boundaries to them, but you're not constantly calculating their attachment points during gameplay. Let alone if that's a reason then why is it not 60fps when outside of your ship and during the action elements of the gameplay?

Let's not try and make excuses here, let alone ones that don't make sense.

I get development is hard, but this is Bethesda and Microsoft. If anyone has the ability to make a 60fps mode it's the company that takes almost a decade to make a game and the company supporting them that's spending $64B to buy up more of the industry.

If No Man's Sky can do 60fps and native 4k on PS5, there are no excuses here, IMHO. The development team sizes alone should give Bethesda the massive advantage let alone the much longer history and the direct association with the hardware. Let's not forget that Starfield also has hub-styled cities, so you're not loading all those NPCs and city areas in the open world regions. They've literally set themselves up so they should be able to do 60fps, but Bethesda just isn't working towards 60fps. They're working towards 30fps. That's on them.

sparky77355d ago

Actually I am a software engineer (not game dev) so I have some idea of how these things work. Having a bunch of interactive objects affects how high you can get the frame rates. Have you never seen a video when someone throws a fireball in a store in Skyrim? The frame rate plummets since all those objects have physics, Bethesda games are unique like that. Most other games have no interactive objects and everything is just static.

I am sure they could get it to 60fps is they really wanted but I would rather they get it out and polished then added 60fps later.

GhostScholar355d ago

You really just compared no mans sky to starfield? Some of the things you said about how frame rate works is correct, but if you think the scope of no man’s sky is anywhere near starfield you’re either a troll or insane.

Sonic1881355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

@Ghostscholar

I would compare No Man Sky to Starfield. It looks very similar to it and No man sky had a lot of updates and couldn't even run in 60fps during launch. It took a few updates to get it to run in higher resolution and 60fps. No man sky is a bigger game now and the scope is bigger as well after all the updates as of today and it has a lot of planet's just like Starfield. A matter of fact you can fly in every planet's atmosphere unlike Starfield. I'll be playing Starfield on PC

https://youtu.be/sMT-Mz1D4p...

darthv72355d ago

60fps is ideal for fast paced games. This is not that.

Christopher355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

***Actually I am a software engineer (not game dev) so I have some idea of how these things work. Having a bunch of interactive objects affects how high you can get the frame rates. ***

1. https://i.kym-cdn.com/entri...

2. Nothing shown in the gameplay showed anything more interactive than most games out there. Let alone those interactions are limited to tool use and are handled procedurally just like No Man's Sky. Things like mining. Not destruction was otherwise lacking as were a world filled with unnecessary individual objects or physics. Sorry, no. And even then... They aren't doing a 60fps mode even if it has drops due to player derived shenanigans. They are focused on 30fps. That's the issue. And it's not because there's too many interactive elements. Plenty of games are 60fps and deal with that. Plenty.

*** You really just compared no mans sky to starfield? Some of the things you said about how frame rate works is correct, but if you think the scope of no man’s sky is anywhere near starfield you’re either a troll or insane. ***

Hey, folks, if you haven't played NMS in the last three years, please don't provide input or act like it's a simple game. It's not. And, furthermore, fps is about optimization and you think a team of 20-something can optimize a game better than a company with hundreds of people? C'mon. Stop giving Bethesda a pass on this.

DarXyde355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Completely agree. Hardware is powerful enough now that you can always crank out a great looking game at 60fps. Maybe no ray tracing or fewer shadows and particle effects. Who cares?

More importantly, game can be played in first person, which I would say absolutely should be incentive to make a 60fps mode.

All games should feature performance options in this age, and the game has really had more than enough time in the oven to ensure that this happens.

At the end of the day, it's a Bethesda game and it looks like it'll be a great title of you enjoy those games. Maybe the fans don't mind the game being 30fps and options will come later on. Really, who knows? Assuming it doesn't, maybe the most important part of the conversation for consideration is whether it launches at a stable 30fps.

Won't really know until you get your hands on it, I suppose.

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shinoff2183354d ago

Christopher

Maybe should be but isn't a dealbreaker.

PhillyDonJawn354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

I disagree. 60fps would hold back immersion and next gen graphics for many games you won't get both of those with 60fps. You think GTA 6 is gonna be 60fps?
If it's not a competitive FPS, Fighter, Racer. 60fps is not needed

And you just compared No man's sky being able to run 4k 60fps to Starfield smdh. Thise meat on both game aren't even comparable. Starfield has way better animation, graphics, lightning, combat, etc. You gotta be joking

frostypants354d ago

It should always at least be an option. I am fine with 30fps quality mode...as an option.

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potatoseal355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

No way. It should be 60 on Series X. Dynamic res and 60 fps. It can be done, they're just not good enough to get it done.

darkrider355d ago

It's because of the series s.... No doubt. It will hold back every single x game...

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jznrpg355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Not really.
There is a thing called performance mode.

For the S it makes sense since it’s a low end machine but the X should have performance mode.

Forbidden West Burning Shores had 3 modes 30fps 4k , checkerboard 4k 40fps balanced mode and 60fps 1800p checkerboard and that’s an open world game with lots going on flying robots, flying mounts , underwater stuff etc .

It’s not like Starfield you can go to any planet and land on it manually you have to load every planet so it should be very possible.

It can be done but they obviously didn’t even bother.

darkrider355d ago

Up. But beteshda ain't that good...

ApocalypseShadow355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

So, basically wait for another patch for another game is what you're saying sparky?

As Chris said, they were gunning for 30 rather than 60. But if they designed the game to hit 60 all the time, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And Microsoft is supposed to be a huge software company. With billions in resources and wealth. But that wealth is being used to buy something else than help their existing developers make their games the best they can be.

Many games today have graphics mode and performance mode. They could have done it too.

EvertonFC355d ago

I'm gonna wait another year and play starfield sept 2024 tbh.

Sonic1881355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

It's funny how everyone talk about tears of the kingdom running in 30 fps on the Nintendo switch 😂 and now the Series X/S don't even have an option to run 60fps in Starfield but locked in 30fps

AuraAbjure355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

It's cuz heartfelt gamers care about awesome video game experiences; experiences that blend technical science with art so well it legitimately feels magical. Zelda games offer a magical experience. Look at this educational, entertaining video below about how thought-provoking Majora's Mask is as it pertains to the Gods of Esoteric Buddhism, namely Fudo Myoo [1].

That video by the way doesn't even touch base on the humongous theory that Link is dead the whole time in MM and going through the 5 stages of grief, personified by the Deku of Woodfall representing extreme anger. Darmani's desperation. The singer of Great Bay's most beloved band is depressed and hopeless. Sharp comes to terms with how he mistreated his brother. Lastly Link learns acceptance atop the Stone Tower Temple and acquires enlightenment.

Even Robin Williams said Zelda games are magical [2].

Now that I think about it, I think the five stages of grief do not pertain to Link's death, but rather the moon child's ascension to Heaven, delivered BY Link. If you watch the video you can see the narrator compares the moonchild to Buddha's enlightenment and ascension to Heaven, delivered by Fudo Myoo. Akin to how Odin did not die in the movie Thor: Ragnarok, rather he ascended to Heaven, delivered by his kin.

[1] https://youtu.be/IlEnGbsnnU...

[2] https://youtu.be/09wBn4ux3N...

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Rimeskeem355d ago

Their slogan is literally "power your dreams". I guess they believe people dream in 30fps.

AuraAbjure355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

People dream of awesome video game experiences. Vague, I know; notwithstanding, it's true.

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raWfodog355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

If this game performs the exact same way on both the X and S, then that is a shame. They should have taken extra time to ensure that it runs at 60fps on the X with higher, graphical fidelity. But, on the bright side, then that means I can save money by just getting the S instead of the X.

andy85355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

No it isn't. Stop excusing mediocrity, youre allowed to say bad things about Xbox sometimes. This game looks no better than any AAA game but yet they run at 60+. If it can be 30 on the S it can be 60 on the X, they just can't be bothered, the same as Redfall. Forbidden West had 60 fps day one, which is the better looking game? Xbox keeps touting this worlds most powerful console but their big 2 releases this year are locked to 30? If it was a seamless world then I'd expect the 30 more. It's not. The planets load.

Shadowsteal355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

No reason a 1440p 60fps mode isn't available for Series X. If PCs can play Starfield at 1080p 60fps, heck i wouldnt be surprised if the Steam Deck can run it at 800p 60fps.

Most of Sony exclusives like God of War: Ragnarok, Spider-Man, Horizon: Forbidden West, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, and etc. all sport balanced Fidelity modes at 40 fps and can include ray-tracing as well.

Not even a mode like that for Starfield? Very disappointing. You'd think purchasing Bethesda would've led to better optimization of Xbox versions. Shame that, that's not the case.

shinoff2183354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

It wOuldve probably ran better on the ps5 had it not been canceled.

anast355d ago

You might need more experience in your field. There is no reason to settle for mediocrity. This is a billion dollar company.

seanpitt23355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

12 TF and can't hit 60fps wtf it's not like it looks amazing as well the character models and graphics look last gen the decent looking thing is the lighting global illumination.. yes it's a big game but it should be 1440p upscaled 60fps on x
It will be super choppy at 30 all Bethesda games are it's a massive L
Hopefully the mid gen refresh the series XL will do 60fps upscaled 4k max settings

ChasterMies354d ago

How is this expected? Games don’t render every part of the game all at the same time. Call of duty is like 200GB and it runs at 60fps. Size doesn’t matter for framerate.

meanmallard354d ago

That's fair, you should expect rushed and unfinished products from Microsoft.

BurritoWarrior354d ago

fps has nothing to do with how large a game is, just has only to do with what's being displayed on screen at once. hardly any moving parts in this game and this is entirely on programmer and coders to develop an engine capable of such tasks.

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RaidenBlack355d ago

Locked at 30 FPS for both Xbox consoles: 4K for Series X, 1440p for Series S.

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deadfrag355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

It's actually very lame to not add a 1440p@60fps on Xbox Séries X.The system has VRR and LFC support not to mention that FSR exists and it's also supported , not adding a performance mode to a system that Microsoft touted has the most powerfull console ever seems off and lame.If i have to guess Bethesda is going to milk this game just like they did with Skyrim....expect 60fps on the next Xbox generation.. Another game that lacks optimization and it's just running by brute force the max and lock were it's stable.

Kurt Russell355d ago

Yep. 30 FPS, no thank you very much.

Gardenia355d ago

30fps is unacceptable today, at least for Series X it is. Them not lowering the resolution for whatever reason is also not a good sign.

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ChasterMies355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Some games are fine at 30fps. I thought Control looked too good with RT to play it in performance mode. If Bethesda has a slow moving tactical shooter, I’m all in. But what bothers me is the 30 fps on Series X and Series S. Is this a Microsoft decision from on high to keep console parity? Is this a gameplay issues tied to framerate issue like some of the glitches in Destiny 2? Is this a Cyberpunk 2077 issue that will be improved over time? Folks aren’t spending $500 for a 30fps machine.

Abear21355d ago

Turn based strategy is fine at 30…that’s it imo but we’ve been spoiled, game design has fallen off the pace of the hardware and it looks like Starfield is here to fix that—problem is devs have already laid down the precedent of 60fps. Bethesda is their own beast though, it’ll be interesting to see what Rockstar does with GTA6.

NoFanBoy354d ago

I just think that getting 60fps would require more work than they are willing to do, Bugthesda want to release it asap.

meanmallard354d ago

But then they would also have to have a 720p version for Series S.

NoFanBoy354d ago

Yeah 30fps for Starfield and a crap looking game like redfall, pathetic. 1440/60 over 4k/30 anyday. I'll play it on PC anyway.

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purple101355d ago

It's clear it runs less than 30fps from the footage released
Screen tearing too I saw on a tree to the left a couple seconds into the trailer (towards the end of the xbox xhowcase, not the direct)

sparky77355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Dude you are trying too hard man just stop.

Would love to know the timestamp since I don't see it

purple101355d ago

Not really trying mate. Just pointing out what was there. This is choppy as hell, anyone with eyes can see it

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potatoseal355d ago

I actually think you're trying too hard. Almost like desperation in a sense.

EvertonFC355d ago

"Dude you are trying too hard man just stop"

Says you who sucks di"k, it's OK to point out issues fella, it's what makes games better.

ChiefofLoliPolice355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

No he is not trying hard. Hell I noticed it too. Look I get it man you want Starfield to be Xboxs saving grace but criticism is deserved. If you want to play this above 30fps then either better hope they release a performance mode for Series X or play on a powerful PC.

anast355d ago

The game is going to be jank. But it doesn't matter people pay for Bethesda's stuff.

meanmallard354d ago

Let's be fair, you don't have to try very hard to be skeptical of "another"30 fps game coming from Microsoft and Bethesda.

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darkrider355d ago

That will be even worse when we find that it's not even locked at 30 frames

Lightning77355d ago

Knew it and not surprised at all.

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

Christopher21h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack21h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics4h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Fishy Fingers20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan6h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens526h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

outsider16242h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

-Foxtrot19h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows902h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast1h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake2h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel19891h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

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helicoptergirl19h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan19h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken6d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty6d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken6d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty6d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken6d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0076d ago (Edited 6d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken6d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot6d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto6d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer5d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek5d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken5d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie5d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12086d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast6d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit6d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export6d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2036d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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