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Has Dragon’s Dogma 2 taken microtransactions too far?

Is Capcom justified in releasing the game with 21 downloadable items?

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SoloGamer165d ago

all which you can earn IN THE GAME BY PLAYING.. sheesh.. people need to chill and stop trippin'.

TheProfessional64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Yeah and that's exactly why we have $70 games, $60 season passes, games as a service and micro transactions. If you can't call out these giant companies for being shady just because you like the game...

TiredGamer64d ago

The fact that new big budget games are only $70 is one of the reasons that we have all these micro transactions. When you have diverging variables (one side = size of staff/overall game budgets, other side = price of games relative to historical buying power), market forces will be forced to pull the sides together. So that means either game prices OR game revenue increases, or game staffing and game budgets decrease. Since the latter has persisted, publishers must find ways to increase revenue. A $10 increase in new game prices over the last 20 or so years is far below actual inflation rates.

Truthfully, actual point-of-sale new game prices, adjusted for the declining time value of money, are the cheapest that they have been in 20 years. Look it up.... $70 USD today is equivalent to $38.84 in 2000.

https://www.usinflationcalc...

anast64d ago

@Tired

The standard editions (incomplete game) are $70. Complete games (deluxe +) are from $90-$100. They raised the price on the incomplete versions of games.

Crows9064d ago

@tiredgamer

Nope. They said the same about $60

Our dollars were worth more before...now each dollar is worth less but prices are much higher. So it is not equivalent.

40$ in 2000 with wages back in 2000 made sense....wages haven't really increased much since then.

Not to mention that the wider appeal...the lower the cost. Not to mention the prominence of digital games which should keep costs down....yet they only increase.

Inflation is fine as long as wages keep up. Wages have not been keeping up for middle or lower class

victorMaje64d ago

@Tired

Really? The argument is that they cost a lot to make so mts are needed?
Are you defending mts in a single player game?
Do you not see how having mts in games is not just a question of profit but also of change in game design? Do you care how games are designed?
You want predatory corpo mechanics in your games?

just_looken64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

I know its very hard to believe for alot of internet users but the world does not revolve around America.

If you do not live in america like over 90% of the world videos games are over $100 for the base version even though last gen they were at most $70.

Like america the average wage has not gone up but we see far more higher price hikes on everything.

For me dragons dogma 2 base is $95 pre tax fuck that.

shammgod64d ago

You haven’t even played it. Man up

NotoriousWhiz64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

U.S. stats:

Median annual wage in 2002: $27,690
Median annual wage in 2022: $46,310

Average annual wage in 2002: $31,898.70
Average annual wage in 2022: $61,220.07

Sorry, whose wages haven't gone up? That's between a 50% and 100% increase.

S2Killinit64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

I would normally agree w you, but I also feel bad for single player story driven games. Everyone wants devs to make them, but when it comes to money they arent allowed to do Remasters, they arent allowed to sell you items, they get hammered by reviews. With people dismissing them if its not pure perfection. (Even then people bi*ch)

Then we find out people spent 1 billion dollars on microtransactions in a live service game.

Well?

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H964d ago

Listen I understand what you mean, but this isn't a specific microtransaction problem, this is a industry wide problem, if MT aren't treated as an all evil plague, they will not go away, you can back to the history of every consumer practice, and you will always see that the only way a predatoy practice gets killed is that people treat it like the plague

S2Killinit64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

I would agree on a principle level.

BUT imo at this point you are only further impeding developers from making single player AAA story games because these are the only ones that are actually criticized for microtransactions. We give live service a pass, then bash on the ones that aren’t.

Even if we were holding all games to same level, you are fighting a futile battle, because microtransactions are making billions. (We just had an article saying a live service game made $1 billion in microtransactions. What is a single player game developer to do? (We even criticize them when they rerelease their own game to capitalize on what they made)

H964d ago

I understand what you mean, but we need to not give anyone a pass on this, live service included, and yes they make a lot of money because most people don't care and keep buying but we can't stop resisting because others don't want to!

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Crows9064d ago

Yeah...they used to be called cheat codes....smh

anast64d ago

It's a full priced game. Everything should be included. This is why they raises the prices of games.

victorMaje64d ago

Since you can earn them in the game then why have the equivalent mts? Why make a fast-travel mechanic paid instead of designing it differently where the player unlocks it more frequently? Why a paid option? Unless you know some will pay for its practicality, which should have existed as an in-game mechanic but is now a paid option thereby changing the underlying design of the feature.

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gold_drake64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

capcom has done this with every resi game since 2, with devil may cry 4 and 5.

we should be complaining about the poor Performance

H964d ago

Both, every bad thing needs to be addressed

Kaii64d ago

I'll be handing out homework In the form of research on the essence of the boiling frog syndrome because the comments already are afflicted with this.

*Performance comment Is spot on 5+ points.
Accepting that these publishers have these types of mtx In games Is tiring, "well, they've done it with their other IP" so should we accept it? Your acceptance of it happening is ruining gaming, just to make it clear.

But it's okay though, you can earn the stuff ingame. 🙃

isarai64d ago

No. What's dumb is the huge bandwagon to attack THIS game of all game with MTs. Does it deserve to be criticized 100%! But the response is hugely disproportionate to the subject. Literally all ive heard since this game came out is DG2 getting reamed for some of the least intrusive MTs in recent memory. Why are we not flipping out on ither recent releases like literally any if the 2k games including WWE 2K, or Planet Zoo which literally has a $69.99 season pass just to unlock certain animals.

But no lets write 5 articles daily for almost a week for MTs you wouldn't even know existed unless you specifically looked for them in the store.

CrimsonWing6964d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Thank you. I’ve been trying to say this for the whole week.

Crows9064d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Nope...it would be dumb if this game had no appeal..

This game has huge appeal and attention...hence why it is targeted above others with less mainstream appeal.

Nobody cares about games barely anybody pays attention to or plays...or even knew existed in the first place. You cant use nothing burger games as the excuse for why an important game shouldn't be targeted.

isarai64d ago

@Crows90

No one plays NBA 2K? No one plays WWE?

Gameseeker_Frampt64d ago

@isarai

If you think Dragons Dogma 2 is the only game being attacked here for microtransactions, let me refresh your memory.

https://n4g.com/news/255440...
https://n4g.com/news/246924...
https://n4g.com/news/258749...
https://n4g.com/news/258827...

isarai64d ago

@Gameseeker

Learn to read, i said nothing like that at all.

shammgod64d ago

Yep. MTs are in a ton of games now, but these delicate flowers pick and choose which game to pile on.

Every game release now comes with a ton of baggage and you get people piling on that have never even played the game and don’t even plan on playing.

People are so miserable and delicate now that they have to try to make others miserable that simply want to enjoy DD2. Same with Hogwarts and this will continue cause gaming is becoming a cess pool with the sweet baby’s and delicate flowers of the world.

Let me know how many people on this board are boycotting DD2 and I will buy a copy for each one

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gold_drake64d ago

no ones accepting them, but if they have happened for years now, for capcom games specifically, it will not change.

but having optional dlc microtransaction bs is not my priority if the game plays like shit

CrimsonWing6964d ago

It took as far as GotY contender RE4 Remake, so what do you think?

CosmicRavenN364d ago

Having not actually played the game, but only heard about what microtransactions are on offer, no. Dragon's Dogma 2 has not taken microtransactions too far. I think a game would have to go to extraordinary lengths to qualify for the statement 'taken microtransactions too far.'

I mean, I remember a rant from yonks ago (Dungeon Keeper mobile) which, just from memory, went WAY further than Dragon's Dogma 2, with literal days of waiting to mine a single block, and a huge price mark-up to advance.

So, no, Dragon's Dogma 2 hasn't gone 'too far.'

Crows9064d ago

Mobile...which is atrocious....compared to console gaming ...which would like to be atrocious but we have stupid people complaining....is that what you mean?

victorMaje64d ago

Yet.
If you don’t react, they will. Eventually your favorite franchise/genre will have a very different game-design (which apparently many take for granted), and then it’ll be too late.

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Dragon's Dogma 2 Gets DLSS Frame Generation: 77% FPS Gain with Broken Shadows

Dragon’s Dogma 2 has received a new title update that adds Frame Generation for NVIDIA RTX 40 series users (only). Unfortunately, the vast majority of gamers on RTX 30/RTX 20 and Radeon GPUs will have to keep waiting for an FSR 3 implementation of frame generation. There’s another tiny issue with the update.

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Dragon's Dogma 2 Has Sold 3 Million Units In 2 Months

Dragon's Dogma 2, Capcom's latest JRPG, has reached a new sales milestone, rolling over 3 million copies in a span of two months.

isarai3d ago

Hands fown my game of the generation so far, definitely has some flaws and buggy quests, but damn is it good, and surprisingly flexible in how it allows creativity and different approaches to resolve quests and reacts accordingly.

banger883d ago

I just picked this up for PS5. I'm going to hold off playing as long as I can though, in case they decide to add a new performance mode. I don't want to play this at 30 fps unless I absolutely have no other choice (PC isn't a choice for me). I have a dozen other games in my backlog so I'm good.

VincentCastle2d ago

I have it on ps5 and pc and it plays as actually pretty well on PS5. The uncapped frame rates works best for the game then the newly added Max 30fps version.
The only town that gets the frame rates down between 25-35 ish is the first big city, but you won't be that much in it to be fair - I spent from 50 hours about 3 in the city and the rest exploring and the second main town which has better fps.

-on pc with my 3080 and 10700k CPU, the fps outside is better for sure as it can do stable 60fps... But it's the same or worst for the main city. I had fps between 20-50ish and the drops were really noticeable. But the same, most time was spent outside.

Nerdmaster3d ago

Really tried to like the first one, started it like 5 times, but it didn't click with me.
I'll try the sequel someday, but I'll wait for a good (like 50%) discount.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It will end up on PS+ extra someday.
It is good devs release the game first and release it months later on PS+ to give it a second life.
If it was on sub service day one it would have sold 300.000 Max

ravens523d ago

Just curious, does this count as successful?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

For a sequel to a niche game from the PS3 days I would think 3 million is very good. But I don’t know their sales expectations so I can’t say for sure.

EternalTitan2d ago

I . . .dont know.
AAA companies are weird. It depends on their fiscal stuff.
I would guess its successful because the first game sold way less in the same time frame.

EternalTitan2d ago

Knew the game had long legs. It had some disappointing issues like performance, dumb microtracsanctions at the beginning. There is a DLC coming. Wonder what that will add to the game.

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Stellar Blade has sold more physical copies than Dragon's Dogma 2 in Japan, despite PS5 exclusivity

By the looks of it, PlayStation 5 exclusivity does not hurt the sales of Stellar Blade in Japan as the game has passed 90,000 sold physical copies.

Hugodastrevas7d ago

Stellar Blade really deserves way more praise than it got, devs have been adding more and more content, for free, since release and the game already was great to begin with!

BrettAwesome7d ago

More than it got? It got tons, by everyone except the sad wankers who's idea of a sex life, is pulling on their dicks while watching big fake cgi titties 😂

gerbintosh7d ago

Don't see the difference between cgi titties and fake boobs. Also no difference to wanking it to either one of them since both aren't physically there

RiseNShine7d ago

Salty that the game is doing well hm? ;) I suggest some cheese with your whine.

Skuletor7d ago

So you're saying the people that like watching CGI tits didn't praise the game? An educated guess is you meant the opposite.

BrettAwesome6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Risenwhine
What the fuck are you talking about? I think it looks like an awesome game. I don't get the sentiment that it didn't get as much praise as it deserved. The only ones who's been shit talking it, are sad wankers with no sex life. Am I whining? How? 😂

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Cacabunga7d ago

I think we can safely claim that Stellar Blade 2 is confirmed!
I got it day one, i have some backlog due to RDR2 i just platinumed.. i will get to Stellar Blade in the near future

shinoff21837d ago

Same but I'm hitting yakuza right now. Stellar blade looks cool though.

neutralgamer19927d ago

Capcom really dropped the ball with DG2. They had easy success on their hand but instead with their stupid decisions ruined the games success

Stellar blade is an amazing game and deserves all the success. For all the artificial hate it got from people who had no interest in the game to begin with this shows if you make a good game it will sell. The so called 1st party drought from PlayStation has meant 4 exclusives in 2024 so far. Other companies need to learn how to run a business and plan for the future

H97d ago

Stellar blade is performing very impressively there, DD2 didn't do well because word of mouth destroyed it's reputation and not about the Microtransactions or performance, bad word of mouth about how the game lacks so many things that were in the first one

Redemption-647d ago

DS2 sold 2.5M in a little over a week, what the hell are you talking about?

H97d ago

"there", that's Japan, this article is about Japan, the bad word of mouth is about Japan

Hereandthere7d ago

Exclusives matter. No matter what bumbling phil and bond try to say, exclusives is why you buy a console.

The_Hooligan7d ago

How dare you speak common sense!!??

jznrpg7d ago

It would if they added a lot more combat and didn’t focus on graphics

XiNatsuDragnel7d ago

Stellar blade is great excited for 2

anast7d ago

They dropped the ball with dogma. SB is a solid game, it just had to weather the social storm.

shinoff21837d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Said that dd2 was missing things the first one did,like mass effect 2? I haven't played it so I'm really asking.

spss117d ago

I've played both and I have no idea what people say when they claim it's "incomplete". I've only noticed new things in comparison to DD1 (I would give a list but spoilers). Sometimes I wonder if some people actually played DD1 or maybe they remember it differently. Anyways, if you liked the first one and want more of that, you'll probably like DD2.

anast6d ago

Yeah, the content, combat movement is slower, less vocations, the armor system, it's more simplified, and dungeons are lacking. It's like they rushed it out or something, but didn't forget to add in youtuber pawns and micros. At least ME 2 upped the content.

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