Killzone 2 Deffered rendering Explained

The Killzone 2 information you are about to see is not for the average gamer, a little complicated however, Guerilla games have released details on the Killzone 2's deffered rendering and their and their targeted graphics for the game.

[Violater]

leeching off Neogaf

[Lord Anubis]

they seem to get stuff from all over the net. What's wrong about is that at times they don't credit the sources and attempt to take the glory.

For example this is the credit source
http://www.develop-conferen...

[Presidentjr]

I just copied the pictures from he PDF file directly, leeching would be taking stuff without crediting them . Most of the stuff we post are from press releases( screens and news). In the past some people posted news without crediting sources but that has been sorted out.

[TriggerHappy]

It was officially released to the public..how is that leeching ?

[cookiemonster]

^ So by your reasoning, if we write a report and took facts from a book, should we not state the source?

sure you can, if you're not really into giving credit. it's not like this info appeared from nothing

[TriggerHappy]

what else do you want ? Is right on the page and has been bolded to even appear clearly.

[marinelife9]

Only 4 SPU's are being used

[JsonHenry]

The game looks pretty good. It reminds of Half-Life 2 when it first came out a couple of years ago.

[timmyp53]

=)

[AznSniper]

It does look really nice. It reminds me of Battlefield: Bad Company though.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Hopefully Battlefield: Bad Company's graphics are on par with the vid released on marketplace.

It's one of the few that I have my eye on.

Fully destructable environments?! Yes please!

[ShiftyLookingCow]

nice what essentially looks many times worse than even HL2 ends up next gen with cool lighting

[ShiftyLookingCow]

can anybody explain why you disagreed? I was exaggerating the powerful effect of the lighting on the graphics. You guys need to cool off.

[edit]I was refering to this image

[Kleptic]

Is it true that COD4 is also using this type of rendering?

[Lord Anubis]

they use post processing as well.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

post processing I am sure has been used since and even before Max Payne 2, its what you do there that matters

[popup]

Post effects and processing are becoming more important and widespread.

Post effects will become a saving grace with the PS3 as any image processing task can be handled by Cell very efficiently.

[xaphanze]

what the heck?
nice screenshot though =D

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Character models look pretty damn good in this game.

Environment textures I'm sure will be fixed, but ATM they don't look impressive at all.

And gameplay? Yet to be seen.

[TriggerHappy]

Those screens are the targets, meaning the game could look that good when it is officially released.

[xaphanze]

I bet is that it will look this good.Still 8 months to go and the game looks fantastic.

[Violater]

thats the link

http://www.develop-conferen...

[Lord Anubis]

it looks like you beat me to posting the actual link.

I will report it to have the original link rather then gamers creed

[nurayi]

thanks for the link

[power of Green]

Is that what the actaul games looks like?, whats all the hype about?. 2 or 3 colors with average textures. Lost planet out shines this game. Looks on par with Army of Two.

[Violater]

how old are you?

[doublertist]

go troll somewhere else where people actually care what you think

[AnDy FrOm MiAmi]

Another xbot troll trying to bash the ps3 why dont you go and play with marts c#ck or something.

[DEADEND]

"Is that what the actaul games looks like?, whats all the hype about?. 2 or 3 colors with average textures. Lost planet out shines this game. Looks on par with Army of Two."

Are you out of your god damn mind, i have LOST PLANET and theres no way in hell that game comes close to the graphic of KILLZONE2. Seriously you need to stop riding the 360 and open your eyes and mind, you'll realize that there isn't a game on any console that even comes close to KILLZONE2. God whats wrong with you fanboys, just give credit where its deserved.

[beavis4play]

now i finally know who likes all of those bright colors in the halo games. but bright, happy colors don't mix with combat games very well. kind of detracts from the visceral quality of the game. also, it seems much further ahead of army of two. and throw in how much development time is left, and it's even further ahead.and fyi-lost planet looks like last gen compared with what killzone2 is showing RIGHT NOW.

[DrPirate]

Boy PoG, you must have thought Gears of War's art direction was atrocious then.....

[IQUITN4G]

Hope it's better in motion - and you give Halo3 a hard time.

[mephixto]

if you want more colors go and watch teletubies in you tv, it have all the colors you want and is ideal for your mental age

[s8anicslayer]

you are a trolling moran, lost planet outshines this game, what a dooch! i have found that most people who bash the ps3 can't afford it, because sooner or later most people will have it

[truebego]

Killzone2 = the best fps game
may be

[Bloodmask]

Deferred rendering is used just to maximize the memory bandwith that is available.

Graw2 used this on PC.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Trying to turn this into another PS3 vs 360 sh!t-talking match?
Fu(k off.
We're talking about a game here and techniques used in that game.

[doublertist]

Power of green is basically the nasim of xbox fans trolling the forums posting the same thing every time

sorry for thread jacking but its sooo damn true!

[PS360PCROCKS]

Damn what a bad ass story...kudos for posting this, this is the kind of stuff that I find very interesting about video games, the tech and how it's all done...

[ALIEN]

They need to add some colors. This game will end up looking as good as the E305 trailer.

[Cartesian3D]

STFU loser..

Read the PDF file and learn somethin..

u think its sth like Army of Two, u know what? EA makes money with selling CRAP cuz of u MONKEYS..

becuz ur brain is empty (if there is even a brain) and u didnt see depth of the game ... go see ur porn movies then go to bathroom and make some ppl like ur self...

[beavis4play]

the more i see and hear about KZ2, the more stoked i am. now if sony would give us a demo for PS store so we can road test the gameplay.

[DEADEND]

its way too early for them to give us a demo of it, if the game is really coming out in feb08 and its on track then we'll get a demo in dec or jan. but i really cant wait for the beta and the demo its going to be a great game and if they really want to wow people 8 player coop(if it can be done).

[IRONMAN457]

idiots

[fopums]

very nice screenies! cant wait for some more KZ2 vids

[power of Green]

Its funny how people think all devs develope in the same order. Its Beta its Alpha. Nonsense this games going to look like this apon release. Devs showed off pics to show people the graphics almost a year or more before release they did not change that much( GoW & lost Planet etc).

Both these games the top 360 and the bottom PS3 are in the same boat.

[Douche]

You need to look at Gears a year before its release again. It was nothing compared to the final build. By taking reference from what Gears was like at this time in development, it shows just how much improvement really can be made for the final product. If Killzone 2 improves like Gears did in its last year of development, then I have just been under-hyping Killzone 2. Any improvement in Killzone 2 will be surprising for me. I'm so enthused. Btw, you've shifted from "aww man, this looks horrible and w/e" to just "w/e". Seems jealousy is thick in your skin. There's no way out now except denial. Sucks for you.

[DJ]

You don't realize how bad stencil shadows are until you see a direct comparison pic like that. Thanks POG. It really does show how off how realistic the lighting is in Killzone 2! =]

[Mu5afir]

Alpha to Beta.. it's development stages.

[Adamalicious]

Really impressive lighting.

[DJ]

Only 4 out of 7 SPUs are being used a the moment, and only half of the lighting and rendering features they’re aiming for have been implemented. The amazing this is that they’re doing both Forward and Deferred rendering, with a lot of that rendering being done on the SPUs; it’s like having multiple GPUs in the PS3 system, which is why they’re able to use such a wide variety of intensive processes.

I’m sure the other 3 SPUs are going to be implemented for additional AI and Physics processing, and further optimization of their current techniques is a given. BTW, even attempting dynamic radiosity in realtime is f*cking insane, so uber-kudos to Guerrilla. I’m a CG artist, so I would love to have that kind of power in my hands.

[Douche]

There are 8 SPUs, right? Not 7. Btw, all the extra features to be implimented that they mentioned including the improved anti-aliasing will probably be work into the extra SPUs. So much power just waiting to be harnessed. GG's inspiration and insight for Killzone 2 are definately putting a dent into the PS3's capabilities though.

[GamerMan]

There are 8 SPUs ..you are correct about that but a while back they stated that they had the 8th SPU turned off but in computers and servers that it was going to be used as a Spare SPU if one of the SPU's crashed. So technically speaking for the PS3 there is only 7 SPUs to sue but 1 is being used by the PS3 so honestly that only leaves 6 SPUs to be fully utilized by the gaming companies. That's if I remember all the technical jargin that has been spatted out since the launch of the PS3.

Edit: didn't realize below there was a convo on this oh well ... not messing with the original cause of regardless whether I'm right or wrong it's waht I stated..

[AtlREMF311]

is reserved for the PS3's "OS" so they can run the XMB and such..

[Douche]

I remember hearing that. I just forgot. I hope they utilize each and every one of them as much as possible. Can't wait to see games a few years from now that can max out the power of the PS3.

[DJ]

Not many people know this, but it’s straight from Ninja Theory, the developers of Heavenly Sword. 7 SPUs are available to developers, while the 8th SPU is treated as non-existent. In order to lower the cost of Cell, Sony allowed Cell Processors with 7 working SPUs to be used in the PS3, allowing IBM to sell the ones with 8 working SPUs at a higher price to customers in other fields.

Now, a lot of sites have cited false information stating that the PS3’s OS uses an entire SPU; the truth is that Sony only requires 5% of one SPU’s processing time for the system OS. In fact, the lead programmer at Ninja Theory had to speak out about this over at the B3D forums, stating “I don’t know how we’re running Audio on the 7th SPU if Sony’s locked it entirely for the OS”. A lot of this misconception comes from the fact that the SPUs are numbered starting from Zero when activating them through code. For example: SPUs 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06.

[Mu5afir]

To add on to DJ's post.. I would like to remind everyone that each SPU can run two threads. That means each SPU can process two lines of data at any given time. Just like the 360 can run 2 threads per core, the Ps3 can do the same with the 7 SPUs.

Hope that helps.. xD

[The Wood]

Mu5afir and DJ bubbles for ya both mi hearties

[AtlREMF311]

7 SPU's is more than what a high end pc has

[Yosking]

...how they divide up the spu's for different feaures, great organization. Their really trying to max the performance of this game on the ps3. I cant wait for this game to be released, great detail in the game.
RoCk On PS3!!

[StrboyM]

thank you for wasting my time with that ridiculous post.

you and your friend huh? even if your friend knew a hundred thousand people (which he doesnt) minus those folk from the billions around the world, and i think sony can live without em.

do yourself a favor and google ps3 launch? you will see tons and tons of storys about people who lined up early and news stations reporting about the ps3...(heck its not even named ps3) its just so widely know you can say those letters like saying "M.J." or "A.I." and you know who im talking about.

also in your story comparing Killzone to Halo and how know either is. do you realize your frirnd nor his girl mentioned halo or the 360 before you did? please go edit it and add in the segment you so conveniently forgot

now thank you for reading my waste of time nonsense.

[IRONMAN457]

Ps3 will rock all of the consoles and will remain supreme forever

[QuackPot]

If they even come close to the target graphic then KZ2 should be one of the best looking shooters.

But it needs to be one of the BEST shooters.

How?

* Sandbox gameplay - somewhat like Mercenaries.

* Broad player actions: standing rolls, ground rolls(like MGS), crawls, jumps, climbs(boxes & walls), kicks(for doors & enemies), lifting/carrying/placing objects(including moving Heavy weaponry) etc.

* vehicles: at least a buggy, tank, aircraft - again like Mercenaries.

>>>> Suppose have to wait for Killzone 3 for all these beauties. <<<<

[ParaDise_LosT]

Didn't they already say Killzone 2 was Liberation(PSP)
Its wierd x)
But anyway......
What does Killzone Offer besides great graphics anyway?
People are so excited about this game, yet guerilla
hasn't released much about how it plays.....
( no offense intended...I just really want to know...)

[Kleptic]

we call it Killzone 2...because the people that are making the game call it Killzone 2...

although some fanboys have made some extremely funny and witty names like "GreyZone 2"...oh man thats a good one...and "Borezone 2"...hahaha some people are almost inhumanly comedic...

[ALIEN]

Wait till the game is finished and then come aroud here.

[sleepbox]

but the AI will still suck.

[ParaDise_LosT]

Thats excactly my point....
Why is everyone hyped up about a game that isn't even close to being
'finished'
I asked for an explanation not an excuse.... :|

~EdIt~
"2 AI - possibly sorted but still needs to be confirmed.
3 physics - appears sorted at less from the e3 2007 demo.
4. gameplay - still to be decided."
Thank you, You answered my question
with speculations and guesses..
That really helps crackpot...
It truly does...
My question Is WHY are you guys HYPED on something not even revealed yet...

Again..
me- 2
You all - 0

[QuackPot]

Killzone 1 was a average game(~7/10 rating) with obvious flaws:

1. poor graphics
2. questionable AI
3. bad physics
4. Linear/repetitive gameplay

<Revised for clarification>

Although average, it was still a good game and fun to play. Most importantly, there was plenty of room to improve KZ - make it a great game.

Many xbots assume that GG/Sony aren't going to fix those obvious problems and CANNOT UNDERSTAND the hype for Killzone 2.

>>> BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY CERTAINLY ARE FIXING THOSE PROBLEMS <<<<

It is reasonable to conclude from the E3 2007 demo/gameplay that:

1 Graphics - sorted
2 AI - sorted.
3 physics - sorted
4. gameplay - standard FPS and yet to be decided.

So 3/4 flaws apparently fixed already. One more to go. Plus useable vehicles are coming.

So yes, we are hyped about this game and justifiably so. It's not a Halo killer - which is my favourite shooter by the way - but it has potential to take down Gears of War.

Only an idiot with no intelligence, commonsense or logic would believe GG won't fix the obvious problems with the original game nor understand the hype.

.... And turn something good into something GREAT.....

Give yourself a pat on your back and a 1000 more points come to think of it. They clearly make you feel better. And you really need them if you honestly can't understand all the hype.

Or are you trying to disguise your fanboyism? Hmmmmmmmm? Now the truth's out.

[Saint Sony]

Too bad they will miss the target.

[Mu5afir]

They have already come very close to the render target. And as shown in that example, they have already achieved the E3 07 target render. Keep in mind, this is only in Alpha stage there are still a lot of cosmetics that need to be put on before it shines.

[jackie chann]

This game looks really good, but it's going to take alot more than looks to convince me to buy it. I didn't really like the first one, so I hope they completly change the way it plays.

[Whoooop]

SUP fu*ers

add me

ID: whoooop6

I made a new wallpaper with SNAKE and Master chief check it out.

I'll send to anybody who wants them.

[Charlie2688]

Those are some really cool wallpapers :D

[Whoooop]

I'm going to make more later on..

[Says you]

I mean why wouldn't Guerrilla put vehicles its not like you have to run on the ground all the time even they know since they have alot of capacity on Blu Ray why wouldn't they not bother putting vehicles and aircrafts and oh don't give me that this game needs a jump button because in real life nobody would jump in the middle of a battle field because they would get easily killed as they were right now!.

[ParaDise_LosT]

I GOT A DISAGREE FOR ASKING A QUESTION!
WITH OUT EVEN GETTING AN ANSWER.

Me - 1
You guys - 0

The shame....Really now...Shame :|

[DEADEND]

Now its funny how you say that look what happened with HALO they didnt even have to show the real gameplay and every 360 fanboy went crazy so whats your point.

[Junse]

Not just graphics, its all what u can see in a video or ss, you can see how immersive is all, the sound, the light, the interactivity with the level. You can see also, how many love have any aspect in the video, and that make u think they cannot just leave the other aspects of the game just in a mid-level.
I hope this can work to you like an answer, excuse my poor english.

[ParaDise_LosT]

Previews, and actual Confirmation...

We 'xbox 360 fanboys' also already know that Halo 3s Multiplayer
has what we want because
Unlick Killzone
Its predecessor we're very successful
(and don't give me that even bungie said halo 2 sucked..
and my answer to that is
Even though it was a screw up...Name another FPS that was BETTER than
H2(the so called screw up..).....) in its time that 'screw up' buried the competition.....

[QuackPot]

...

[ParaDise_LosT]

But it was only out for windows, not Consoles :)
But Halo 2 and Half-life 2 we're about the best shooters out there
and for Halo 2( which everyone seems to be calling a screw uo nowadays)
to even be Compaired with Halflife 2 should be an achivement on it self...

[MarioFromTexas]

Halo2 single player was lack luster and wasn't anything special..If you think it was awsome, please explain I would like to hear what was great about it..Halo2 single player was bad, and the only thing that saved it was the multiplayer, because the AI was terrible you can walk up to an elite and just punch and they would just stay in the same spot and wouldn't move...I guess that's great AI for xbots, but not for real gamers...You can say what ever you want but in the end halo is nothing but a multiplayer game and nothing epic about it.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The truth is... we use 30 shades of gray because we ran out of memory and don't have enough to handle the smoke and mirror graphics and render color at the same time.

[Whoooop]

I think Microsoft has a Recovery Department for fanboys like you..

Give it a try.. If that doesn't help, I recommend 1 hour of PS3 interaction and that should get the crap out of your head.. :)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You always seem to leave a comments for me every Grayzone article, which means your ether hate me or what I say has truth so it hurts and you need to spin. Which is it? You see I think it's the "spin" part because we all have eyes and for the most part those see in color not in black and white. ZING! Sony forgot to implant the color chip in you Sony droids heads, now your running around in the "real" world seeing everything like an old black and white TV.

(THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE) Look at the beautiful smoke! (we have 5 differant shades of grey smoke) Look at the fire! (sourrounded by GREY!) Look at the reflection off that glass! (the glass is grey, the reflection of the ground is grey, the walls are grey and the glass reflecting the image of a slodier wearing you guessed it "GREY") LOOK AT THOSE PSYSICS! well they are nice (cell) but look those chunks flying to the left they are "grey" (memory) and those chunks that fell on the ground "grey" Let me fire my grey weapon around this grey wall and shoot my grey bullets at the grey enemies and throw my grey grenade at that grey... somthing over there, and Poof! OMFG!!! did you see that? there was a puff of yellow and orange where that grenade was. ahhhhhh sh!t it's gone, back to the grey.

[PeeStree]

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[Whoooop]

Naaa man I don't hate you and don't get your hopes up, truth is the least that comes out of your brain.. CRAP really more than anything else..

If there's something you cause in me, is a blurry vision of all the ignorant crap you write.. aside from that?? no hate my friend that's pretty much it.

There's no problem in your hating though, it just shows how much of a threat the PS3 and Killzone are to you. :)

[Bathyj]

Are you this big of a wanker in real life. I bet your not. I bet you keep your smart mouth shut most of the time so you dont get bashed so much and that why you need to go off at strangers who cant get their hands on you. Pathetic. Like a little dog barking safely behind his high fence.

You keep talking about Grey. Well whats a game playing at night in a thunder storm supposed to look like dumbass? If nothing else answer me that one question.

Its called art direction and if you dont like it just fukoff, no one cares what you think or even if you keep breathing. We prefer a game that goes for a more realistic look. You prefer a game that looks like a cartoon. So what. You're welcome to your aliens with blue and orange dayglo blood. Go enjoy them. Why are you here?

And since when is using pretty colours any indication of a systems power anyway. Bust a move must be the best looking game you've ever seen. Look at all the coloured balls. Its like Mardi Gras at Jasons house.

Haze is colourful and alot better looking than Halo too. It has colours and realism, and some acid trippy parts to boot.

If you hate grey so much you must really hate Gears of War. But you probabaly play that with rose coloured glasses on to balance it out.

[popup]

They can use as many colours as they like Jason. They have over 16 million of them.

I glad you never directed the movie "Schindlers List".

[MarioFromTexas]

I wonder was excuses you were using last year around July, when people were complaing that the 360 games almost looked liked the PS2. And to this date there is only one system seller on the 360 and that was Gears of War, because every other game is either a port or time exclusive..where are these so call great games that you claim to have on your precious system, because my 360 is collecting dust and I'm putting it up for sell on ebay..I guess I'm to picky because I don't play peice of crap games, I rather play PS2 and just wait for the real next gen to arrive Aug28

[PimpHandHappy]

Halo pre-orders started last year and if ur a 360 only person u just got butt raped! You fan boys are great and i love to read these things! You can almost tell who are really and truely lost in there own little world and they like to form this world around there own hate!

Personaly i hope Killzone will be great but if the last killzone is anything to go buy then this game will be boring.

I hope im wrong and it wouldnt be a first and it sure as hell wont be the last time

[killer_trap]

for the technical information guys. I'm sure it will be helpful in the next ps3>xbox360 topic. <<<<<<(it's right by the way)

[Deity01]

http://ninja-matic.gametrai...

[Kyur4ThePain]

it's not going to help much.
People like him are too used to the 360's Crayola color scheme to appreciate the technical achievements behind this.
I'll bet they think real life is getting too "colorless" too.

[Deity01]

Yeah, which is funny seeing how much recognition Gears got for bland colors. It's really a shame all those idiotic Xbots are gonna miss this masterpiece of a game. Fanboys disgust me.

edit:What the hell are you talking about Jason xg1"it's called "forced" because you ran out of resources"

This game is only utilizing very few of the PS3's potential yet, and the color choice was their personal option. If you had read that link like I intended, there is a reference to the Killzone Pre-E3 party, where GG turned off the filter and post-processing, and it looked vivid and bright outside. Along with the fact that the level shown is under a damn wickid storm the Helghast concocted is good reason for dark "gray" environs.

you know nothing about this game do you?

[Bathyj]

.
I've watch the HD versions of those trailers several times, often in slow motion or frame by frame. If you've never done this, I'd suggest it. Its amazing what you pick up. See that shot with the bright purple? Incredible colour comes off the muzzle flash and lights the whole room apropriately throwing shadows up behind everything. I guess say, a chimp wouldn't be impressed by this because it wouldn't know what it was looking at, but for a gamers with even the most rudimentary understanding of graphics its hard to not be left breathless.

Frame by frame really highlights the bullet hit reactions too. Shoot someone in the guts and he will double forward. 2nd shot hits the right shoulder and he'll straighten back up and twist right. 3rd it the left arm and he'll twist that way while his other hand reaches up to hold the wound. All of this happens in a second or too and its totally non scripted, totally dynamic and dependant on where he gets hit.

And dont mind Jason too much. He just has a little sand in his vagina because Xbox is nearly 2 years old and still doesn't have a real next gen game yet.

[WilliamRLBaker]

wow bathy nice attitude, you know it would seem that he might be in your mind the jerry springer crowd, but you seem to be the type willing to kill off all free thought if it doesn't mesh with your own. Thats very nazi of you buddy.

as for the topic at hand, just like kz1, kz2 will suck big fat balls and get its butt kicked in sales by halo 3, and COD4.

[Bathyj]

Please William, dont try to act like he's bringing interesting, thoughtful but oppossing thoughts to the conversation. Hes here for pretty much the same reason your always in a PS3 thread. To troll, and annoy PS3 owners.

He never brings anything but malice so don't act like I'm the intolerant one. I listen to everyone, even if they disagree with me. That why I don't have ONE SINGLE PERSON on my ignore list. A practice that no doubt causes me a bit of frustration now and then but is still the correct thing to do in my mind if I expect people to listen to me.

And hey if Jason wants to cut out his constant PS3 sux, XBox rules attitude all the time in every PS3 thread where he doesn't belong anyway, then I will by all means cut him some slack.

BTW
Since my Grandfather had to escape Germany with his young wife and child or be killed for refusing to support the Nazi party I find you calling me that offensive.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

And when I come in here to turn the "truth" on... you guys scatter like c0ckroaches RUN! someone go make an article defending its lack of color quick RUN! to late lights on. "they used an art style on this game" it's called "forced" because you ran out of resources "it's a myth it's a myth" Only to you

[Kyur4ThePain]

So how about you taking your sorry self and whimper somewhere else.
We're actually having fun in here and you don't like that, we know.
Now, please leave.

[nix]

it's red and nearly forms a circle. q:

[Bathyj]

ZING !!!

[360Crusader]

Killzone 2 is looking pretty sweet. I always thought Killzone 1 had some of the best gun reloading animations in any game I ever played.
Cool weapons too. The sniper rifle was sweet. And the standard RRF assault rifle.

Rapid Reaction Force gonna kick some Helghast ass.

[zedane33]

complaining about killzone's color (artistic direction), shut up! the graphics look great!

shades of gray? come'n, go to your 360 section and complain about gears of war.ok? LOL!

[djtek184]

http://video.google.com/vid...

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

killzone best realtime graphics for years to come, unless something else on ps3 trumps it

[THC CELL]

Sweeet

[Gamer13]

I like the E3 05 trailer better than 07, i hope it got tons of features not like Mortstorm with only 1 OR 2 featureS singleplayer and online - what the hell is that, If killzone2 comes with a long singleplayer and good multiplayer and lots of features with this type of graphics it will kill any FPS on the market.

IM OUT...///"""

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

why is it ALWAYS the same people flaming every single PS3 news and protecting every bad news about Microsoft?

[CardboardGun]

Just for the record, I love the color scheme this far, and I can't wait for the release of more info on this game.

What I want to mention is that with this 'grayish' color scheme on this level, they open up the possibilities to have some sick contrast between the different levels. I'm quite positive we'll see other levels that are much brighter and with a lot more vivid colors than shown in this level. Just look at the wonderfully rendered sky in the beginning of the E3'07 trailer, before the storm sets in - I think that's what we can expect from at least a couple of the other levels of the game. We'll get both the 'grey' levels AND the bright and colorful. Just for the contrast of it. I can't wait, for with an engine like this - the possiblities are simply endless. Wow, it's good to be a gamer these days!

[ShiftyLookingCow]

I am impressed by SPU usuage data though I don't exactly understand the graphs

[Clinton514]

Wow, it's just a presentation and the whole "but why is this getting hype" cry crew is out. Just appreciate the tech. behind this and let the game speak for itself when it arrives. Clowns.