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Final Halo 2 Player, Shunned By Microsoft, Speaks Out

Nukezilla's Jon Ruggiero writes:

"So what does Craig want? He believes that Microsoft was unclear when they said the 12 would “have everything necessary to participate in the Halo: Reach beta.” He’s asking for Microsoft to clarify what they meant, as well as for some level of recognition. “I would like Microsoft to follow up with what everyone expected them to do with the statement that they put out.”"

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GWAVE4984d ago

Microsoft? Not honoring fans of past games? NO! That just isn't possible!

Winter47th4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

*gasp* say it isn't so! And here I thought they were renowned for their high standards.

Palodios4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

Wait wait wait... Microsoft said they would give them "everything necessary to participate in the Halo: Reach beta" and Microsoft gave them beta keys. Now these people call themselves the "Nobel-12" like they are heroes, and demand prizes and more?

pixelsword4983d ago (Edited 4983d ago )

@ Palodios:

Since Halo 2 was on the original xbox, Microsoft should have assumed that they most likely didn't have a 360; so to put out a statement like that would infer to a bunch of people who most likely didn't have a 360 that they would provide one.

That's like Sony telling a bunch of Killzone fans that they would give them "everything necessary to participate in the Halo: Reach beta" and they just give them beta keys.

CimmerianDrake4983d ago

Actually, GamesRadar gave them the multiplayer beta keys. Microsoft didn't even call and say hi. And they didn't call themselves the Nobel-12, that's the name they were given by everyone for being the final players of Halo 2 and the original Xbox Live. It's all in the article if you care to read it.

Spydiggity4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

why should they? i'm confused.

as far as i can tell, all these guys did was keep playing halo 2 on xbox. i could have done that too...i still have my original xbox and halo 2. i just chose not to since...you know...i have a 360 and ps3 and have better games to play...including the vastly improved halo 3 (at the time -- Reach is out now). the only reason these guys did this was for the purpose of gaining fame for doing basically nothing.

i think maybe some acknowledgement would have been nice, but the fact that it didn't come shouldn't really mean much. it really wasn't a big deal. the fact that we are still talking about this gives these 12 dudes way more fame than they've actually earned.

Si-Fly4984d ago

So it'd be okay if Sony didn't follow through by giving the winner of the GT5 competition their Mercedes SLS?

They promised them prizes, they should have followed through, epic fail from Bill.

NoOoB1014984d ago

It was because MS said they would give these guys something in return for their dedication to the game. No one expected anything until MS themselves said that they would do something for these guys. Instead MS was praised for their word and not for action.

dragonelite4984d ago

So do i get this right their account were already flagged for the beta?
Because the article tells about them already owning a code for the beta.

Spydiggity4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

NOTHING to do with Sony. leave them out of this.

and that's what i understood to be true too, dragonelite. hard to give an account access to a beta it's already got access to.

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coolbeans4984d ago

"Microsoft? Not honoring fans of past games? NO! That just isn't possible"

Anyone find this a bit funny for reasons that will give more disagrees than agrees? :P

Oldsnake0074983d ago

lol don't take his words seriously. He is just a massive troll, he must have a really boring live to be on N4g 24 /7 and dissing MS.

msbabie200344984d ago

SONY not honoring fans of past games by taking out BC? NO that just isn't possible!

number474984d ago

Woah look, HD remakes of PS2 games say hi.

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Hideo_Kojima4984d ago

Hey DK286K why don't we go and play on our old consoles...

oh wait Xbox isn't supported at all my MS anymore.

beardpapa4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

Except BC was there to begin with. You had enough time to buy a unit with BC, and if you didn't tough luck.

This on the other hand is the same as a parent telling a child they'll buy them a new car if they got 4.0s. The kid does get 4.0s. The car never came.

Sony on the other hand is like a parent buying a car for their child. The parents no longer have money to keep the car. The car gets repo'd. The car wouldn't have gotten repo'd if the child had also assisted in the financing.

^ Makes you wonder if sales of the ps3 in the first 2 years were much much more than they were, would things still remain the same without the need to cut costs.

bennygunner4983d ago

i dont want a hd remake of a ps2 game. you know why, because this is a fucking ps3. i want new ips falling from the sky. what must i do with old games, feel nostalgic and hate myself for failing to understand why i cant apprecitate gameplay that is so old and outdated. i played ff7 and it was impossible to play. no analogue sticks, irritating menu, where the fuck were you supposed to walk. i bought that psn shit because of the fucking hype. played one hour and i was about to vomit. terrible motion sickness. old games are cool when they came out, why the fuck would i want to play something on a system that is supposedly 20times better than the console the game came on. if it was for free, and something for fans to get wet about. then sure. those retards can waste their money. oh but soc and ico, they da best, ja. okay..........unless they were built for the ps3 then NO. shit should be for free.

Heartnet4983d ago

this has nothing to do with sony.. woah stfu

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number474984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

They killed a console & stopped supporting it.. What do u expect?

princejb1344983d ago

i say give em a 360 and halo reach
so microsoft could redeem themselves as the evil company they are

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jcgamer4984d ago

Craig: "Everything you promishhhhed..."

Microsoft: "We didn't promise you s#!t, Craig."

Craig: "But...you haven't contacted any of the ‘Nobel-12' by phone, email or via XBL.”

Microsoft: "Noble what? OK, buddy..,we need some security over here."

lol

joydestroy4984d ago

+bubble for making me lol ^_^

wardrox4984d ago

To be fair, MS did say they would get him "everything necessary to participate in the Halo: Reach beta". Which I would assume most people would think is more than nothing.

jay24984d ago

Craig, they RROD on you bud.

Spydiggity4984d ago

whatever some moron troll can do to throw that in there.

jay24984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

Love it, I get a PhD next May. I have 14 GCSE's, 3 A levels and a degree under my belt bud. So, you better re-define Moron.

Oh, and here's a photo of my xbox 360 gamertag on my TV so... Yeah, enjoy.

http://tinypic.com/view.php...

Spydiggity4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

troll that thinks making the same tired joke 4 years later is still in any way funny.

alternatively: person who believes he can recover his bubbles on n4g by appealing to the larger group of fanboys by making the same tired joke they've been making for 4+ years.

alternatively: person who thinks bragging about his unprovable RL accomplishments in a video game forum lends any additional credibility to who he/she is or what he/she says.

hobo514984d ago

jay2, smart people never have to tell others their smart, so stop being arrogant douche and get over yourself

gillri4984d ago

I got to about 400 people left on Halo 2, and it got really late so I had to sleep

wardrox4984d ago

Doesn't look like you missed out on anything :P

NotSoSilentBob4984d ago

It is Microsoft. Think they will give away anything for free? Think again.

Spydiggity4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

cross game voice chat? :-P

EDIT: Private, not Party

NotSoSilentBob4984d ago

How is that free? You have to buy the 360 to get access to XBL right?

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies6d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX7d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody7d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic6d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

rob-GP2d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic "They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo..."

lol, you mean:

NES, SNES
GameBoy, GameBoy Advanced, GameBoy Colour, GameBoy SP
DS, DSi, DSXL
3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL
Wii, Wii U
Switch, Switch OLED

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Cacabunga7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_6d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga6d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie5d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly6d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga6d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit6d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic6d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_7d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21836d ago (Edited 6d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies6d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander197211d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv7210d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander197210d ago (Edited 10d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal11d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead11d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan11d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl11d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx9d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut8514d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.