Crysis 2 'Taps Every Last Ounce Of Console Power'

NowGamer: Crysis 2 Executive Producer Nathan Camarillo says that Crysis 2 is pushing both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 to the absolute limit...

[ultramoot]

"Crysis 2 'Taps Every Last Ounce Of Console Power'"

Yeah. Good luck explaining that to the PS3 fanboys.

[skyward]

Why - because they want KZ3 to win the 'looking pretty' competition?

[Active Reload]

It graphically surpasses KZ3. If you prefer KZ3 art style thats another story.

Edit: Let me guess...Sony branded glasses,lol?

http://www.ign.com/videos/2...

There you go. I can understand people liking KZ3's art direction, but as far as photo-realism Crysis has it beat.

[Iroquois_Pliskin]

@active reload

umm you need glasses...

[plb]

@Active Reload

You've obviously never played KZ3 in person. Probably only watched youtube videos

[skyward]

How can anyone disagree with a question? I just wanted to know what Ultramoot meant by "Good luck explaining that to the PS3 fanboys."

Geez...

[FunAndGun]

Glasses....sh1t, he needs LASIK.

[joydestroy]

sorry, but KZ3 is going to win more that the "looking pretty" competition for me. it will likely be MP of the year.

i think Crysis2 will take SP of the year for me, though. and i'm leaning more and more towards only getting this on PC

[young juice]

@Active Reload

saying it graphically surpasses kz3 is in fact an opinion.

but the vid you gave doesnt really help your case imo. im playing the kz3 demo now and from what i see its way better than that vid and there is alot more going on.

[tehpees3]

WTF they just said it was the same on both >_>

Contradict much?

[Pixel_Enemy]

You are insane Active Reload..

Killzone 3 looks MUCH better than Crysis 2 (on 360 and PS3) Crysis 2 on PC is a different story.

[siyrobbo]

As long as its still on PC, crysis 2 will be the best looking FPS

[Biggest]

And as long as we're in a topic about console power, the PC talk will be completely off topic.

[Active Reload]

Like I said, if you like the art style of KZ3, fine, but its not on Crysis' level of photorealism.

[young juice]

aint nobody talking about art style. im talking about the atttention to detail, character models, facial features, things like that.

im not saying kz3 is better looking than crysis 2 on consoles as a whole. but from the small demos that ive played and vids i have watched .

im reserving my full opinion until i play the full games

and you should do the same

[Active Reload]

I'm talking about art-style to get my point across. You do what you must, I don't need any suggestions from you, nor am I trying to convince anyone. There's tech then there is art, once again Crysis has shown that its technical prowess surpasses art...now on consoles.

[Headquarters11]

'Taps Every Last Ounce of Xbox 360's Power' Fixed

[Headquarters11]

Maybe you should actually play both ON A GOOD HDTV before making that statement lmao. I played both and Crysis 2 isn't even CLOSE to Killzone 3 in terms of graphics. Maybe the PC version, yea, but the console version HEEELL NO hahaha.

Thanks for the laugh.

[creatchee]

@young juice

Reserving an opinion until actually playing a full game?

You apparently don't know how N4G works ;)

[Velo50]

Killzone 3 is a great game and all. But all the talk about graphics is getting stupid. Killzone LOOKS good. Although the Tech isnt as superior as Cryengine 3. Sure the console versions fail but killzone isnt god either. I mean shitty textures. A whole load of blur effects to cover it up And hell of alot of dark.

Killzone 3 is plain Awesome.
Crysis 2 is plain Awesome.
Ps3 is Awesome.
Xbox 360 is Awesome.
Pc Is Awesome.

Bunch of kids.

[MysticStrummer]

Active Reload - You must be referring to the PC version of Crysis 2. Neither console version looks better than Killzone 3. Photorealism...? Wow... talk about wearing glasses of a certain brand.

[DeathMetal1474]

"sorry, but KZ3 is going to win more that the "looking pretty" competition for me. it will likely be MP of the year. "

Yeah BF3 has nothing on KZ multiplayer. How can you guys say this fanboy crap with a straight face LOL. You can't even take cover in KZ multi, which is the main gameplay mechanic of the whole game.

[nickjkl]

according to active reload

realism is the equal of good graphics

so that means toy story movies werent really that good looking because they werent rendered in a photo realistic way

[HolyOrangeCows]

Killzone 3 has the better graphics AND gameplay.

Keep trying to convince yourself that anti-aliasing-less, screen-tearing Crysis 2 has better graphics than Killzone 3 on the console versions.

[nycrekid]

Forget about glasses they clowns needs a lobotomy.

[starchild]

I own Killzone 2 and I have played Killzone 3 and Crysis 2 has them beat easily. The quality of lighting and textures and effects is simply better in Crysis 2.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Yea Crysis is definitely more photo realistic. But that doesn't mean it has better graphics. Anyone can do photorealism. GG's use of exaggerated lighting, shadows and filters are spot on for creating a feeling of grit and war. Animation is hardly a comparison here. But all of that combined with the amount of detail in both the characters AND environment is a true testament to GG's abilities.

Crysis 2 manages to keep up with Killzone's level of detail while being in a more open environment but sacrificing animation. They're both really impressive to me but photorealism in a sense is played out and is hardly difficult to achieve. Killzone 3's design wins over Crysis's realism in my eyes.

[NewShadow101]

Crysis 2 does have the "photo realism" and its a beautiful game judging on the so called "xbox360" screenshots, but Why does photo realism have to be better than an artistic approach? anyways im buying both, but for the subject you brought up, i think killzone 3 looks better console wise.

[NewShadow101]

Crysis 2 does have the "photo realism" and is a beautiful game judging on the so called "console" footage. (ill believe it when it comes out because the demo didnt impress me as much as i was hoping). but why does "photo realism" have to be better than a more artistic approach? crysis 2 is set in the future but in a present location. your use to seeing New York. but killzone 3 is in a future setting and location. we wouldnt know how things would look. for the subject you brought up, imo killzone 3 is my choice for console visuals. the back drops are stunning, crisp models, atmosphere. its gorgeous. dont get me wrong, crysis is gorgeous as well, but its not. quite. THERE for the console version. idk i gave my 2 cents.

[gamer2010]

"but why does "photo realism" have to be better than a more artistic approach?"

Subjectively neither one is necessarily better, but it is certainly harder to render a photo realistic environment than a highly stylized one.

The human eye knows how things are supposed to look, therefor if you go for a realistic approach you better have the technology to back it up. Rendering objects with the detail, textures and lighting that they need to look realistic is much harder than rendering something with a rougher stylistic approach.

Take Okami for instance. It looked great to most people in an artistic sense despite the fact that from a technical perspective it didn't do anything special and wasn't realistic looking in any way.

When you use lots of sepia tones and high contrast elements and design with a sort of broad brush approach like in Killzone 3 it is easier to get away with lower quality textures and lower quality modeling of the objects in the environment. I went up to some of the instrument panels in the Killzone 3 demo at the end section when you are using the WASP and the modeling was pretty poor quality, as well as the textures.

If you are rendering things with a view towards photo realism, with natural lighting and colors, you have to model things at a higher quality level or it will be really noticeable.

Most of us that realize everything that Crysis 2 is doing are simply blown away by what they have achieved on console.

[mandf]

Here I'll explain it to you. Crytek said they were going to use each system to it's fullest potential. There is an article on the front page of N4G by Crytek saying they look exactly the same. If you still believe that the 360 is on the same graphics level as the ps3 you are blind. The 360 is a good system with great games. That's it! Uncharted 2 , God of War 3, Killzone 2, and Killzone 3 ( plus various other games) proves you wrong.

If Crysis 2 looks the same on both systems, it's nothing more than a port. That's not a bad thing in general, but if you talk as much smack as Crytek does back it up.

By the way Skyward, Killzone 3 looks a lot better than the console version of Crysis 2. The industry as a whole has continued to say this but then they must be fanboys. Grow up and play everything.

[ct03]

Is there an Uncharted 2 version for 360? No. So how can you know what it would look like?

Most games are graphically bound by the available VRAM. So it should come as no surprise that in overall graphics power the systems are very close.

[UltimateIdiot911]

Is there any game that reaches the quality level of Uncharted 2 or KZ2 even? No, it's 2011 already. Where are those games for the 360?

[mandf]

ct03, The 360 has been out 1 year longer and is highly touted for being easy to develope for. With that reasoning, there should be a lot of games that outshine the ps3. Those games are not being made. That means that the 360 is not capable. If the developers can't create it then it isn't going to happen anytime soon.

Crytek is the gold standard for graphics. Fact! Now that they develope for consoles it should be the standard on consoles but isn't. You should see this far into the console generation something on the 360, that matches or surpasses Uncharted 2, but you don't. One can only draw a conclusion that the 360 is less capable in the graphics department.

That doesn't make the 360 a bad console or weak. Facts are facts.

[ct03]

I don't know if there is such a title. But that doesn't tell us whether there CAN be such a title.

Of course, if the Crysis 2 beta config for 360 is accurate, then there is indeed a title that matches and probably exceeds the ones you mentioned.

[Active Reload]

Its a multiplat and it looks better than KZ3 so the excuse of pushing the PS3 is out the window. But you can go ahead and imagine what it would be like if Crytek made an exclusive PS3 game taking full advantage of it--nothing less than exceptional.

[NiKK_419]

active reload, yu are so delusional, i can't believe yu actually believe what yu say

[eterry]

@ct03
okay but the CPU in the PS3 is more powerful then the 360's and thats a fact. And for games like uncharted 2 and killzone 3 the graphics are helped by the CPU and since the 360 doesn't have a powerful enough cpu to run it, it means that it wouldn't look as good on the 360

[MysticStrummer]

Active Reload - No it really doesn't.

[Cock4Gamers]

Wow, some of the comments on this thread are completely daft. There are games on the x360 that look as good as uncharted 2. People in the real world(as in the world outside of this ps3 fanboy infested hell hole) agree. The only people that think that the x360 doesn't have games to match the ps3's exclusives are the people here. Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, and even Alan Wake can easily go toe to toe with ps3 exclusives if you actually take the time to look at them objectively.

[Kalipekona]

Absolutely, Cock4Gamers, these fanboys are so delusional. The 360 has equally good looking exclusives. People's subjective appreciation of the exclusives on each console will vary, but objectively there is not much difference.

These fanboys always talk about "PS3 exclusives" as if all PS3 exclusives belong to some elite club. The reality is, most PS3 exclusives are nothing special at all. I'm talking about games like Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank series, Infamous, Resistance, Demon's Souls, Haze, MAG. Many PS3 exclusives like those are entirely average looking. There are lots of multiplatform games that look better than lots of PS3 exclusives.

So, PS3 exclusives as a group do not represent some higher level of graphics as many fanboys pretend. Despite all the hyperbole what it really boils down to is a couple games: Uncharted, Killzone and God of War. And like you said, there are games on the 360 that look just as good. PS3 fanboys think if they keep shouting the same thing loud enough that it will become true.

In any case, Crysis 2 running on the 360 looks better than anything on consoles that has come before it. http://www.gamespot.com/sho...

[badz149]

"I don't know if there is such a title. But that doesn't tell us whether there CAN be such a title."

I for once think that PS3 and 360 are equal in terms of capabilities but the PS3 has proven itself with game after game that it's very much capable of producing very good looking game and touted "best on consoles" no denying that but what about the 360? based on what you said and the fact that the 360 is a year longer on the market, are you implying that it's ok to talk the talk but not walk the walk? because that's what it is with the 360 at the moment; there COULD BE such a game but it's NOT THERE!

[badz149]

I have to DISAGREE BIG TIME about you saying R&C series is AVERAGE looking! give me just 1 platformer on any platform that looks as good! I'll help you with that and save you some time...NONE!

[NiKK_419]

are you guys kidding? do you actually have a ps3? i don't see how you can say things like this without having a ps3. GOW3 and UC2 are on completely different levels of multiplats and 360 exclusives, gears of war is probably the best looking game on 360, but that still does not look the same as ps3 exclusives, so i'm sorry to tell you the truth but it's just that...the truth, so buy a ps3 and some games and you will see what you're missing

[JsonHenry]

I just wish they put that much effort into optimization on the first crysis. :/

[lil Titan]

i know Crysis will look amazing but i wonder when a better looking game comes out, what would that developer say then? hmmm

[Wizziokid]

when a better game comes out?

Killzone 3 is out next week, not long to wait

[kramun]

Lol, better game. Yeah, sure it is.

[Iroquois_Pliskin]

Killzone 3 IS BETTER both graphicaly and game play wise

[lil Titan]

lol ok technically Crysis 2 come out AFTER Killzone 3 and says it tapped out PS3 power but i know what ya mean lol

[starchild]

wizzio, like most console kids you don't have a clue about graphics technology. Crysis 2 on PC demolishes Killzone 3 so bad it isn't funny. Even on the 360 Crysis 2 blows Killzone 3 away.

I have never seen a more graphically overhyped game. Killzone 3 looks pretty good by console standards, but it has mostly medium quality textures and the lighting model is not very accurate. Its high contrast art style makes it look really good in videos, but when you play it in person it doesn't look nearly as good. Again, it is a pretty nice game by console standards, but Crysis 2 on the 360 still beats it. Deal with it.

[badz149]

"deal with it"

with what? with you being delusional?

[Silly gameAr]

Good luck explaining that to devs that prove otherwise more like it.

[theonlylolking]

obviously it will be hard to explain when you have resistance 3 and KZ3 this year that look better than what we have seen crysis 2 on consoles.

[starchild]

Is that a joke. Resistance 3 looks like crap. Low res textures, weak lighting that isn't even, and generally poor effects. It looks better than Resistance 2, but that isn't saying much.

Killzone 3 looks far better than Resistance 3 and actually looks great, but it still doesn't look as good as Crysis 2 on the 360.

Crysis 2 has a far superior lighting engine, using true HDR and global illumination. Killzone 3's lighting engine isn't nearly on the same level. Crysis 2 (even on the 360) has far superior textures than Killzone 3. The SSAO, per-object motion blur, fire effects, water, foliage rendering and so on is all superior in Crysis 2. Killzone 3 is several steps behind Crysis 2 in most areas.

[MNicholas]

Forget Killzone 3.

Crysis doesn't even measure up to the best looking games on the 360.

Poor textures, really bad pop-up, horrendous draw-distance, a number of low quality effects, shimmering along sub-pixel polygon edges, pathetic anti-aliasing, ghosting, uneven frame-rate, etc.

At least the lighting is good.

[Shaman]

If you read the latest preview they said that SP if far far better looking than MP.And it really is...You just have to look who makes them-Crytek Frankfurt(German studio who made CE3) and Crytek UK(previously developed Haze and long time ago Timesplitters).You can't compare SP with MP even in ordinary games,where its made by same team not to talk about the versions that are made by different studios.One of them genius with tech and gameplay and other fallen from grace once great studio.

LOL at above!Resistance 3????Wtf??That latest video almost looks last gen...

[Death2494]

You can't tell these people that. 360 fanboys have been reduced to throwing multiplatform titles at ps3 exclusives. Now that Crysis2 has bombed, next their going to start saying :"well Rage, blow everything on ps3 out of the water." Their talking about secret levels and so forth.

[Shaman]

You CAN'T compare Crysis 2 to other console games purely based on fact that CE3 does EVERYTHING in real time.You have real time of day,dynamic shadows(non baked),dynamic lights and volumetric sun shafts.People should give them credit for that,especially being 3rd party.With all duo respect to KZ3 but there is alot of baked in lights and shadows(not that is bad but still...,don't give me disagrees because i will put their own presentation here if you want),they have pre baked sun shafts and its more linear game.It still does not take away how beautiful it is but Crysis 2 still pushes consoles to its limits.

[ultimate-remag]

the article is fail. he was speakin bout the 360 mostly then squeezed in "these consoles" in the end.... smh.. he trolling!!!!

[frostypants]

Simple logic says that the game cannot both be pushing both consoles to their absolute limits AND look/run identical on both consoles, because these consoles are NOT the same. It can't be both ways.

[MysticStrummer]

If it tapped every last ounce of console power, the console versions would look substantially different.

[Tommykrem]

Can't wait them here to say this when graphically improved Crysis 3 is released.

[DualConsoleOwner]

and yes...
LoT was comparing Crysis 2 to Killzone TWO. we all know LoT is biased towards Xbox, but even they could not deny that two years old PS3 game looks better.

What makes you think that if Crysis 2 cant beat Killzone 2 it will beat Killzone 3??

LoL.... Crysis 2 on console ISNT even HD. and it LACKS proper AA.

hahah. i love how there are bunch of fanboys like Ultramoot who try to deny it.

[TimmyShire]

I've played the beta for Crysis 2 and Killzone 3 and I gotta say there really is only one winner.

[skyward]

But did you play the secret level on the Crysis 2 MP demo? Nah, thought not.

[theonlylolking]

So you have to play this secret level for crysis 2 to look good on consoles. KZ3 looks great all the time.

[awiseman]

the secret lvl looks amillion times better then that garbage skyline, but ps3 fanboys dont want hear it because they feel threatned by it.

[Ju]

Must be that secret level that nobody can see. That's how secret it is. LOL

[Stealth20k]

If I had a nickle some company said that and was proven wrong Id be rich

[Goldsack]

..they dumped down the black mamba version.

[BrianG]

Yea, but they just said the game runs on PS3 exactly the same as 360.

Now don't get me wrong, but if my math is right, there is more processing power in the PS3 couples with the faster CPU RAM. To me that should equal greater performance.

So which statement is right Crytek? Are they equal or not?

[Pootangpie]

LOL no just no IBM has already stated that both CPU's are pretty much indentical but what the hell do they know the only made both 360/PS3 CPU

LOL at below do you even know what GFLOPS is or does appreantly not your stupid counter comment fails to mention that the PS2 had more GFLOPS then the orignal XBOX but did they make the PS2 more powerful hell no it was outdated even during launch and I will agree the cell has more processing power but by very little

[BrianG]

The Cell CPU has a raw processing power of 212 Gflops.

The xenon, which is in the 360 has a processing power of 77 Gflops.

The Cell has much more processing power.

Also the Xenon was designed off the original specs for the PPE in the Cell. But to its advantage the Cell has 6 SPE's for gaming. Wikipedia and other sites are my sources, feel free to utilize them.

[frostypants]

Comparing the Cell to Xenon is like comparing apples and rocks. They are not even remotely similar architecture-wise. Not sure where you get your info.

No, GFLOPS do not mean everything. That's the only part of your post that wasn't incorrect.

The simple fact is the PS3 is the more powerful system, when it is leveraged properly. Example: most PS3 exclusives offload graphical special effects (particle effects, etc.) to the Cell's SPUs rather than the GPU. This frees the GPU up to focus on pushing more polygons. This isn't coming from Sony's PR people, this is coming from actual developers.

These kinds of tricks cannot be performed anywhere near as efficiently on more traditional CPU architectures.

It's a cliche point now, but it's valid: why does the 360 have nothing that even approaches God of War 3 or Uncharted 2 graphically?

I own both systems. I play my 360 all the time. But in terms of best looking games vs. best looking games, it's not even close. Have you ever seen Uncharted 2 on a 55" LED display? It would make you re-think your position.

[lordkemp007]

I smell a potent mixture of hyperbole and bullsh!t. Maybe they have been wearing Greenturd's aftershave.

[maniac76]

only every ounce of xbox,like gold said,"they dumbd down the black mamba version"

[Wizziokid]

'Crysis 2 'Taps Every Last Ounce Of Console Power'

Tell that to guerrilla games, insomniac & naughty dog.

[Pootangpie]

I did not there was a PC/360 version of uncharted 2

I've said this many times and isn't rocket science to figure it out there is reason that it has sony brand logo on the box It's ****ing exclusive Duh

[TheBreezyBB]

Lol @ Crytek!! if full potential mean not using PS3 SPUs then a BIG NO.

[Black102WingS]

Good luck tapping an alien technology aka ps3.

[SSKILLZ]

And then uncharted 3 comes out and blows us all away and takes goty . That would be awesome.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

KZ3 and Duke Nukem... that's it!

[byeGollum]

Wow, I didn't know N4G was home to so many developers. Y'all seem to know about development and console hardware inside out. I look forward to that game you guys are making, whats it called again umm.. Fanboys: Forever Ignorant .. LOL

[diehardgamer1000]

wat do u knw bou game dev.....tell us

[Xfanboy]

BF3 will max out console 12vs12 is laughable to me!

http://www.psu.com/news/907...
ps4 incoming or we need smaller levels.:(
console owners are fed the idea of the hardware being powerful. 720p is 1996 res on pc wtf! even more tv shows are 1080p! consoles are falling behind pretty bad! but at least they are cheap as they should be for the technology you get..

imagine dx11 graphics with huge levels omg..
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

please don't mention mag or any other game that has crap graphics..

[redking315]

yes, but a computer is meant to be viewed from within about a foot of the screen. Your tv is meant to be viewed from a much further difference. As such the games have to have different resolution requirements. If a console game ran at pc resolution the game would be hard to play because it would be small. Resolution doesn't really matter on consoles as much as it does on pc.

[hoops]

Resolution don't matter?
Tell that to the hordes of fanboys on this site when games like Halo are Sub Hd, or games like RDR and GTA4 and Street Fighter and MGS4 are SubHD and all of a sudden Resolutions matter.
LOL

[cyborg6971]

Name one tv show broadcast in 1080p. You cannot because there are none retard. At least not on a weekly basis.
Not a problem if you had the same tv I side by side one with p and on the other interlaced can and will do. I love how people say you can't tell but when there is alot going on it's easy.
Now at below I know I can tell the question is can you?

[redking315]

thats because its really hard to broadcast in 1080p, but i'd like for you to take a 1080i show and a 1080p and tell me which is which

[MysticStrummer]

MAG doesn't have crap graphics.

[Holeran]

It's been proven time and again that you can use every last ounce of power from any console or computer and still have crap graphics. This just means "they" Crytek don't know how to optimize if the graphics are not King, and we will have to wait and see. But seeing KZ3 in action they have a long road to how.

[TABSF]

Its all about computational power.

The PS3 has 218Glop/s
The 360 has 115Glop/s

If Crytek have got all 218Glop/s out of the PS3 then its peaked
If Crytek have got all 115Glop/s out of the 360 then its peaked

People can go on saying but this looks better and that looks better.
Fact is CryEngine 3 is real-time, all the time.
People don't realised that a lot of calculations go on in the background.

Click on the Technology tab at the top http://mycryengine.com/
http://crytek.com/cryengine...
http://crytek.com/cryengine...

Games can be updated in real-time on the CryEngine 3, I could go make something on Sketchup or 3D Studio and import it in-game without quitting or restart (no other game engine can do this) not only that the CryEngine would do all the lighting, shadows and HDR plus a host of other options to make it appear like it should do, again real-time.

watch this or skip to 3:00 to see what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Steam, the gamers choice.
CryEngine 3 real-time, all the time.
PC it only does everything.

Also did not mention this, Crysis 2 is the first game to be 3D stereoscopic on PC, PS3 and 360.

First PC 3D stereoscopic game based on activate shutter technology was 2008
First PS3 3D stereoscopic game based on activate shutter technology was 2010
First 360 3D stereoscopic game based on activate shutter technology will be 2011

[hennessey86]

you clearly no what your talking about you will still get disagrees its pathetic

[disturbing_flame]

Anyway they can maxout the consoles with the cryengine.

but in fact it's the max a console can give with the cryengine, it has nothing to do with what consoles can do with other engines.

It's important to understand that because each engine can max out the theorical power of a console.

I think anyway that crytek is doing a great job trying to optimize their work on every platforms.

I'll play Crysis 2 on PC anyway but i just wanted to say this.

Far more than that Crytek politic is very aggressive, they say to EPIC and their unreal engine that they are also a competitor, Crysis 2 can be a nice visit card for them.

[DigitalAnalog]

If you checked the last DF article, the 3D implementation on consoles is NOT stereoscopic as you would like to believe.

-End of Line

[frostypants]

You can make Tetris max out a system's resources if you program it inefficiently enough...

But maybe that's Crytek's secret. Maybe they ARE maxing out both consoles, and just haven't put much effort into optimizing them.

[hoops]

You are preaching to the choir here TABSF.
3/4 of the members on this site have NO IDEA about the technology that goes behind the Cryengine or the fact that its all REAL-TIME as you stated, UNLIKE the engine used in KZ2/3, Uncharted 2/3, God3, Gears of War 1,2,3.
Real-time Dynamic Global Illumination is not present in any of those game engines I just mentioned for example.
Cryenegine and maybe the FrostBite 2.0 engine does most of this in real-time and is not pre calculated.
That is what makes this game engine unique.

[MRMagoo123]

i too can make myself look smart by copying and pasting things from google

[hoops]

@MRMagoo123

Based on his posting history its clear he knows what he is talking about when it comes to this area in general.
And copying and pasting wont help if you know squat. Just look at some of the responses in this thread for example...............

[TABSF]

Your to kind :)

I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.
hehehehehe

Thing is I research, most of my stuff :)
Although a lot of it you kind of need to know about.

I just like Hardware and Technology

CPU, GPU and SoC that are looking hot:
Bulldozer, Kal-El, Fusion, Southern Islands and Kepler, Its going to be good.

[Kiriel]

Uh oh, our beloved consoles are looking rather wrinkly right now... :)

[specialguest]

Most people will judge this mainly on how good the graphics are, and if it's not as good as, let say Uncharted 2, they'll call b/s on Crytek's claim.

To me, the power of a system is more than just graphics. It's the grand scale of the levels being played on, physics, AI, post processing effects, resolution, and frame rates.

[Shaman]

Exactly.To me...best looking game could than end up being new Fight Night because characters there look like fuckin CGi but does it push console like KZ2?No of course.

Anyway...from HDR and dynamic lights,to dynamic shadows and camera/object motion blur...to great physics and open levels and even real time bokeh effect(when using powers you can see it) all of that is displayed on console version.Only game that i know that has all this on consoles is UC2.Note that GOW III and KZ2/3 don't use dynamic shadows,lot of it is baked in textures.

[Bounkass]

Good. It's about time a game does...

[redking315]

Not denying that PC are far better and consoles have very low limits comparatively, but I would assume that Crysis 2 is maxing out the consoles /at the moment/. It is always possible to optimize more and make things run more efficiently. It might not get a ton of performance from them but, it is always possible to optimize more. Many games have claimed to use all the power of a console, but then another game comes along and walks all over that previous game.

[Ace_1975]

Funny how all these big releases use every last drop of power, then six months later out comes a better looking game.

Developers are playing gamers for chumps.

[Apollyn]

And I tapped every inch of the females in there family trees.

True fact

[tudors]

@Apollyn ? what does that mean?

@below: ok dude ;)

[Apollyn]

Tapped is another way of saying had sex with. And obviously it's a point blank lie being used in a sarcastic context. And was used in the same manner cryteks recent stattements have been

[Tzuno]

Ha, liars everywhere

[tudors]

@Ace_1975 that's because they optimise the engines, it's using every ounce of power now based on the engine, having said that I think they are starting to peak, anyway why do people complain, if someone showed you UC2, Gears of War, KZ3 and Crysis 2 when you were playing games like resistance 1 or call of duty 2 you would be like no way that's on a console.

[diehardgamer1000]

its quite funny,cz i like the crytek guys bcz of their talent and all but they cnt shut their fuckin mouths.

1."crysis2 is goin to hv the best 3d"
2."crysis2 pushes both consoles to their limit"
3."crysis2 is goin to hv 90+ metacritic score"

#bear in mind i remember reading all these articles on this site so u myt wanna look them up if u thnk im bullshittin'

SHUT THA FUCK UP. NaughtyDog,Insomniac,Guerilla, Polyphony pple who hv much more experience with the ps3 neva say shit,they let the games talk.

[Big_Dom]

What an ironic statement given the fact that you have the words diehard gamer in your title.

[Ju]

"Crysis will be the first FPS in 3D released in 2010"...

2/17/2011. LOL ;) And it won't in 2011 either, ha ha.

[Big_Dom]

KZ series - COD style gameplay, cut scenes. Mostly linear, corridor style level design.

Crysis - sandbox. Large open world level design.

Now, going by the nature of a sanbox type game design, visuals usually have to take a hit somewhere due to the scale. The engine also has to be vastly impressive in technical terms if is to produce the kind of visuals we see on display from Crysis. There's no argument. No debate to be had. Crysis batters every other FPS on a console, both technically and visually whenever you consider that it is a sandbox genre of FPS we are talking about here. Of course Id have to show their hand with Rage, and DICE likewise with BF3. The thing those games all have in common is the sandbox nature of the game design, and again you look at the companies producing them. They are all well renouned for their gaming engines. Three of the best in the business. Now, disagree away all you fanboy headcases.

[Biggest]

Get back on topic. This isn't about PC gaming. This is about console gaming. Crytek said something about their prowess in console gaming. Crysis isn't on consoles. Crysis isn't even the game being mentioned in the article. Crysis 2 is not a sandbox game. Rage, Battlefield 3, and Crysis 2 on consoles will be good/great games on their own. The politics of console gaming will not allow any of those games to be efficiently maxed out on any of the consoles. The day that they allow the developers to maximize for each consoles strengths (or the day the developers decide it's worth the trouble) is when we can start talking about this in earnest. Crysis 2, Rage, and Battlefield 3 will have trouble matching the best first party offerings of at least the PS3.

[MysticStrummer]

Biggest - It's always about PC gaming, didn't you know? I have high hopes for Battlefield 3 and Rage, but Crysis 2 looks like just another FPS. The topic is whether the game maxes the consoles out. I say no, because if it used each console to it's full potential the versions would look more different than alike. Also, Killzone 3's visuals look substantially better.

[diehardgamer1000]

thts wat makes GG amazing,cz they r using n inhouse game engine and they still manage to stay at the top

[Jbb]

So n4g's tweet was retarded.... The ps3's hard ware far surpases the 360 .... They may be maxing the gpu and proc on the ps3 but you can do that with porting and doing shitty optimizing (more than likely what was done)

[THC CELL]

Lies or both ps3 vs xbox would not be the same,why dont crytec just try a exclusice on one colsole and stfu been idiots

[gamingisnotacrime]

we all know where this is going

multiplats using each platform to the fullest, yeah whatever you say

[Tyre]

Crysis 2 looks more realistc..Killzone3 more paintbrush. BOTH are cool games what's the argument about? i'm going to buy both...for each i'm as excited and each is looking as great. and each version of Crysis2 is built seperately at the same time from 1 source 'the CryEngine3'. It's a different proces there are no such things as ports...each version of Crysis2 is in fact the same: let me explain each version is in fact the CryEngine3 only with settings tuned for the specific hardware capabilities and the most beautiful things is that each Crysis2 can be scaled when run on a newer system so imagine you pop in ur Crysis2 game in ur PS4 or Xbox3 and after a little update see it running with higher res textures/better shading/more particles/more realistic physics etc etc in fact Microsoft took this in account for all 360 titles released since half 2010 they are all build with the X-Engine integrated(google it). Crytek has been telling over and over again that Crysis2 will be scalable on all platforms now and it has been build with future platforms in mind.

[btk]

Whatever. Is the game good? Yes - get it.

[jjank11]

Jesus, if people want great graphics then go buy some guns and go to a shooting range. Who cares. We've reached a point where graphics are not holding back gameplay much at all and many of the enhancements to graphics these days are not even noticeable. Does anyone live outside of their living room TV's or open the windows once in a while........you get full infinity HD if you just looked outside for once.

[VictoriousB13]

Holy fuck you put the words "consoles" and "graphics" in any headline and N4G becomes a fucking warzone. So pathetic.

[D3athc3ll]

Uhmm, Crysis 2 looks amazing on console! Much better than the pc version, lol! No kidding!

But Cryis 2 looks great, and i think it'll be the best 360 graphics game till date! Ps3 best graphics? No. Not if it looks the same as the 360!

Crytek read this plz! FUCK YOU

You said ur pushing each console to its limit?? Ffs stop lying to fans. Ur Cryis 2 game better look better on the ps3 than the 360, or im supporting the hackers!!!! Pirate!!!!

The PC one is awesome though :)

[LNDCalling]

@Active Reload

Is it just me or is the texture 'pop-in' in that video you posted real bad.. almost distracting? Link below for those who haven't seen it!

Not saying it doesn't look good.. but those textures poping are offputting for me! :/

http://www.ign.com/videos/2...

[emk2004]

wow this is like the 10th game this gen to use all the consols power.

[D3athc3ll]

lol true, they all say it! haha

[MARKUS_MAX1MUS]

ohhhh it doesnt optimise the cell processor and ...and....

Dont you lot just LOVE to bang on about the Cell processor? whats it going to do next? cure cancer? fly a monkey to mars? shutup.

insecure fanboys who have allegiences to a corporations product that doesnt give a fuck about you. The Irony is incredible.

You should all be part of Sonys PR team, they need more shallow minded morons who cant expand their gaming outside of one console.

meanwhile im happy being able to play Crysis 1/warhead, Counterstrike, Unreal Tournament, Half Life 2, Arma 2, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, MGS4, GT5, Gears or war, Halo, Forza 3 all in the same room.

Multiplatform gaming,

Join the revoloution.

[Ingram]

Ohh, how cute, you crammed in some PS3 games at the end and used a motto fit for AT&T or domino's pizza, to make us think you have a PS3 and enjoy it.

You are the shallow minded moron, get a job and stop defendind you father's hardware, he needs that GPU for AutoCAD.

[MARKUS_MAX1MUS]

I actually crammed in some 360 games at the end if you had any sort of reading ability or understanding.

your the shallow minded moron if you dont agree with having all the platforms you close minded little man.

I do enjoy my PS3 :) heavy rain is the best story in a game yet! but needless to say my PC eclipses both of them.

Id like to see a PS3 or Xbox 360 run Arma II on the highest settings :P, yes working has its benefits sir, something you clearly dont do, your obviously more interested in collecting bubbles! on a news website for games!

allow me to deduct one, awh......are your little feelings hurt?

[DeathMetal1474]

Anyone who does not worship the mighty Ps3 must not own one lol. Typical fanboy reply. They act like the Ps3 is some uber expensive elusive object that is hard to own. Bunch of D-Bags

[Ingram]

Nor PS3 SPU's or 360 CPU Threads are "maxed out", and it certainly won't be a big mouth 3rd party developer who does that.

I have more faith in Portal 2 than for this game.Guess what? there's a free copy of the PC game when buying the PS3 version.

Also, those people saying Crysis 2 > Killzone 3 are completely, fucking deluded.
PC guys seem to think 7Th generation consoles aren't capable of real time HDR, hilarious.

They can even do Tesselation ignorant *ucktards, knock it off.At this rate, 8th generation will completely absorb PC gaming.

[Kalipekona]

You're the deluded one. The graphics tech in Crysis 2 is several steps ahead of Killzone 3.

Killzone 3 doesn't even have HDR lighting, look it up. It also doesn't have real-time global illumination like Crysis 2 does. In terms of precision and realism the lighting engine in Crysis 2 is superior to that found in Killzone 3.

The consoles are capable of HDR, it's just that Killzone 3 doesn't use it.

Crysis 2 also beats Killzone 3 in almost all other areas. Effects, scale, texture resolution, physics...in all these areas Crysis 2 is superior to Killzone 3.

Even the 360 version of Crysis 2 http://www.gamespot.com/sho... looks noticeably better than Killzone 3.

[Ingram]

I know KZ does not use real time HDR.It uses deferred shading though which allows for a lot more light sources than other technical approaches, so lighting is bound to be spectacular.

"precision, realism"...something tells me you never even attempted to use a gamepad, that's sounds exactly like the nonsensical diffuse argument behind the typical mouse-only PC gamer.

I'm not comparing 360 to PS3, I'm saying you're all butthurt PC-Only enthusiasts.

"Crysis 2 also beats Killzone 3 in almost all other areas. Effects, scale, texture resolution, physics...in all these areas Crysis 2 is superior to Killzone 3."(...) fucking opinion, you sound like a PR from Crytek jerking over the game.You forgot to say Crysis > Jesus.

[D3athc3ll]

@kalipekona

Lol, Crysis 2 on consoles looking better than kz3. Ur fucking blind! The pc version will look better yes, but dude, the console version aint that good!!! Even KZ2 looks better!!!

[bunfighterii]

I think arguing that consoles will overtake PC's graphically is a bit rich considering console hardware pretty much remains static for a 7-10 year life cycle while PC hardware is evolving constantly.

Obviously though the benefit of console hardware is a single, once up hardware purchase, whereas with PC to constantly be at the cutting edge you'd need to spend money on hardware upgrades over the same period.

The PC v console 'who's better battle' is a bit pointless to me, as I feel like they aren't really in the same boat.

[Ingram]

Well, yeah, you're right.Consoles are closed PC's, in that regard PC is obviously the superior hardware as it is upgradeable.
I was referring about software richness and overall popularity as a gaming platform, more like becoming the "de facto" hardcore platform.
With "popularity" I don't really mean Zynga games...

@Markus & Kali: You made me cry!, the superior master race hurted my, uh, "little feelings".Boo-Hoo, I'll go hug my PS3.

Overbearing brats...

[MARKUS_MAX1MUS]

^^
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/...

[D3athc3ll]

UHHHHHHHMMMMMMM

Its more bout what the devs can do and can pull offff!

Just look at the graphics difference between Uncharted 1 and 2, not to say 3??? All on the same hardware!!!!

Its the same with most other games too!

Dont think just because the hardware is older, it wont deliver!, it works differently than the pc (the ps3) and it got the cell, which is not limited so far! Useless opinion from ur side imo!!!!

To be honest, i dont even think Pc games this year will crush the consoles, since Gears of War 3, Uncharted 3, hopefully The Last Guardian, etc. is still in development! They will all look better/or close to any high end pc game!

I dont care what u reply, its facts said here!!!!

[hiredhelp]

Oh this funny listening to you all scrapping witch is better. he he

[theone26]

The evidence really doesn't back up Crytek's claim, kz3 looks far better at this stage.

[gamer2010]

No it doesn't. Crysis 2 blew me away last night when I saw the 360 version.

[LMS]

consoles are maxed, have been maxed, will always be maxed for years now, thats why only like 8 games are 1080p

thats why they run at 30 frames per second 97% of the time

thats why they have 0-2x anti aliasing

they cannot do anymore

if they could, they would

god of war 3 in native 1080p with 8x anti aliasing would run at 10 frames per second on the ps3

this means= ps3 maxed

halo3 is 600p
if it was 720p native with 4x anti aliasing it would run at 10 frames per second

this means= 360 maxed

the consoles are maxed

there is no point for these devs to keep saying"our game maxes this console"

they are not saying anything new!

[D3athc3ll]

And still they deliver better and better looking games each year!!!!

What u telling me that Uncharted 1 would be running at 10 frames per second if it had more aa, and still few years later they bring out Uncharted 2 which destroys Uncharted 1 in every way!!!

Your opinion is useless, and anti aliasing isnt everything, if the art style is good or diff tech is used!

Go fuck your pc in the usb port, i think itll enjoy it!!

[bunfighterii]

it does look pretty nice but I've heard all that before. It's marketing speak.

[Nightshadow]

LoL at all the pointless fanboy arguments

[Saint-Revlot]

And I tapped your sister.

[DeliciousAfterBirth]

Tap DAT ASS BABY

[sashimi]

Crysis 2 PC > crysis 2 PC
Ps3 exclusives > Crysis 2 console
FACT